Problem for Orange---Screwball Blog Comment Entry Feature

I’ve looked at the order in which comments appear following blog entries here. It’s really screwed up. It isn’t chronological and it doesn’t appear to be based on any specific criteria I can identify. The first comment (chronologically) made will later appear as the 2nd, 3rd, 5th or who knows where? The second one made will similarly be bumped down to some irrationally assigned place in the “order” (ha,ha) and comments made later on will arbitrarily show up earlier in the order of comments made.

Stolen Boniface

Not saying this was done by steppers, but one might look at whether the church hosts any AA meetings:

The Word "Recovery" Is Misleading & There Is No Such Thing As A "Christian" Recovery Program

In his essay titled "The Twelve Biggest Secrets of Alcoholics Anonymous", Orange said, "The Twelve Steps do not work as a program of recovery from drug or alcohol problems." I agree.

Why do steppers call 12 step cults, fellowships?

Its just another example of deceptive recruiting
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Its just another stepper lie to confuse the vulnerable
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They dont want the general public to know what they really are, just an oxford group inspired cult
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Other reason, please specify, because for the life of me I can't uderstand WHY they call 12 step cults, fellowships
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Total votes: 2

Praise the Lord for Spreading the Word Against AA!

Here are the latest numbers for viewers of my YouTube videos. I've been getting quite a few notices from viewers saying that they have shared the videos with other. Not bad for being posted only 7 months ago. I pray that they will continue to be a blessing to people. Praise the Lord! Alcoholics Anonymous Is Dangerous! (Part 1) - 2,874 views Alcoholics Anonymous Is Dangerous! (Part 2) - 773 views Alcoholics Anonymous Is Dangerous! (Part 3) - 428 views Alcoholics Anonymous Is Dangerous! (Part 4) - 348 views

He's BACK.....well sort of.......

So our friend Danny may have been temporarily silenced here (Who knows, he’s probably already back with a new name) but he’s still playing elsewhere. Right now he’s engaging on the Fix and he inserted foot in mouth so let’s hold him to it when he returns. In this particular rendition he has returned as Subhuti on the Fix and here is one of his threads.

Drunk Driver Driving to an Alcoholic Anonymous Meeting in Major Car Accident Will do Jail Time

BY ASHLEIGH MCDONALD – 8 JULY 2014 A drunk driver who caused a head-on collision after driving on the wrong side of the road was on her way to an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting at the time. Mother-of-three Briege O’Hara is starting a nine-month jail term after she caused grievous bodily injury by dangerous driving to another driver. The 61-year-old, from Belfast’s Antrim Road, was driving over the legal limit and was on her way to an AA meeting when she caused the collision near her home on August 27 last year.

Rolf Ankermann interviewed by St Jude Retreats about all things recovery, "The Freedom to Recover" and the efficacy, or lack thereof, of the 12 Step Model

A big thank you to Annie Kochneva, Marketing Manager and to Michelle Dunbar, Executive Director of St Jude Retreats for the opportunity to discuss recovery, my book and AA. If you are struggling with an alcohol dependency and want cognitive solutions instead of faith healing and powerlessness, check out St Jude Retreats.......These fantastic folks simply get it :-)

where is everyone????

did everone decide that everyone else sucked? did a lot of ppl. recently get the boot? the fix is alive with the sound of comments, but nada ovah here? what gives?

Systematic deconstruction...

Systematic deconstruction of your personality. Those who feel excessive remorse are more likely to submit to superstitious beliefs.... In other words, if you feel guilty enough you'll believe anything. The goal of the 12 steps is to to make you feel guilty enough that you will be willing to believe that sky daddy loves you so much that he'll keep you sober from meeting to meeting... One day at a time. Hopefully for the rest of your life. Imagine that! A life of AA meetings?!!!

The Fix: Cohesion Between Stepper and Anti Stepper

Interesting, *very* interesting and well written, esp. for a Fix article. Again, Juliet hits it with her writing! Vey impressed w/ this young woman; she is an inspiration. Hopefully she will see the light regarding the creepy old woman who is only online out of spite and has no idea about addiction and or 12 step programs (Juliet, look into Anti-D, c'mon!) :)

The Fix: Cohesion Between Stepper and Anti Stepper

Interesting, *very* interesting and well written, esp. for a Fix article. Again, Juliet hits it with her writing! Vey impressed w/ this young woman; she is an inspiration. Hopefully she will see the light regarding the creepy old woman who is only online out of spite and has no idea about addiction and or 12 step programs (Juliet, look into Anti-D, c'mon!) :)

Free sex

I’ve spent an hour or so each night for the last week reading over the OPF. A thought began to germinate in my mind, how can I (we?) contribute to the education of the public at large? Do I write letters to my government representative? Hand out pamphlets at the mall? Disrupt meetings? Organize an anti-AA rally? Burn effegies of Bill W in the town square? What? (Yeah, I got flippant, LOL)

Not a disease, a learning disorder

Maia Salavitz has written the definitive piece on addiction. In convincing fashion, she demolishes the the old-guard dogma and injects some common sense into the debate. This is the kind of fearless writing we need to counter step-speak and speculative "science."

Most of Us Still Don’t Get It: Addiction Is a Learning Disorder

The AA Voice is Loud--Merci to OPF

Alright. So I feel like I am being an attention getter on here, as this is my 2nd blog post of this month. Yikes and sorry for whatever creepy narcissism I am potentially spewing onto the OPF. Some of you know I started going back a little--and then a lot--and then a little, etc. I initially felt like I was being smart. I even read (I ithnk on here?) a meetings survival guideline. It was addressed to ppl. something like this, "If youre gonna go, then make sure you do this that and this, too." It helped. Plus I've been out before for like a full year. Blah blah blah.

Orange Papers Greatest Hits!

******************************************************* whats your favorite hits (excerpt) from orange papers ......? ******************************************************* or any wonderfulness you have experienced along the way

AA destroying self-source energy

Just got a call from steptard I thought had left my life. seems he wanted INFO/SEEKING SECRETS AA-MC CORMICK HOSPITAL CLOSED/HOORAY Muzzy wanted to see if I could be blamed. just called to find out if I was reason they got THROWN OUT.WHOO HOO WHOOIPIE When realized I could give damn about them gotta go call u later/like when Hell Freezes Over. Idiots.said i'm not suprised,you're out.Explained that's a $3million property U R on. Now here's a Christian Hospital /all remodeled new E-R .new wings,but AA=shithole,slum. looks place for druggies alkies using still

The has " hidden" the comments section : why?

Criticisms about aa hurts vunerable newcomers - by knowing the truth?
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Majority clean wo aa have no message & don't help - rehab recruitments?
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The AA sucess story depends on The Priciple of Anonimity - not knowing and hiding?
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Advertiser recruitment quotas go up as aa info goes down?
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The suppresses aa inefficacy to profit - from weak newcomers?
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Fuck it - 95% leave AA anyhow?
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Matters bc 30 B /yr is wasted that could provide better alt help.
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Rhetorical Polls are better - voting results will be hidden.
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Stepper Cult Joke

What does a packet of cigarettes and the stepper cult have in common? BOTH ought to have a government health warning attached to them

Thoreau on Pyramid Schemes (like AA)

"As for the Pyramids, there is nothing to wonder at in them so much as the fact that so many men could be found degraded enough to spend their lives constructing a tomb for some ambitious booby... "...For my part, I should like to know who in those days did not build them — who were above such trifling." -Henry David Thoreau

If you went to Rehab for Drugs or Alcohol, what movies did the Rehab show you?

Days of Wines and Roses - Starring Jack Lemmon and Lee Remick
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Clean and Sober - Starring Michael Keaton
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When a Man Loves a Woman - Starring Andy Garcia and Meg Ryan
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The Lost Weekend - Starring Ray Milland and Jane Wyman
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My name Is Bill W. (1989) - Starring James Woods
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28 Days - Starring Sandra Bullock
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A combination of all of the above - please specify
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They didn't show any of the movies
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Other- please specify
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Total votes: 10

Truly Intelligent Religion-Mongers Can’t Prove That There Is No Flying Spaghetti Monster!

jimbattle---If you’d ever taken a college-level course in logic, you’d know that it’s impossible to logically prove a negative. I said it once a day or two ago and I’ll say it again now---GO BACK TO SCHOOL! Who knows? If you did, you might even learn a thing or two---like how to correctly spell “Beatles” and grasping the concept that it’s impossible to logically prove a negative...for openers... although, I suppose you’ll probably just stay stuck in the anti-intellectual tarpit of your simplistic (if not retarded), sorry excuse for what you call “religion.”

Truly Intelligent Atheists Admit that You Can’t Prove that There Is No God. So Soberman Is Wrong and Here’s the Proof.

Soberman has been proven wrong by atheists who are much more intelligent than he is and (in this case) much more honest. What one of these atheists pointed out in the first 10 minutes of the video below proves that Soberman is being dishonest by pretending that he has proven to members of this forum that God does not exist.

Friends/Buddies from the Rooms

Recently, I have noticed a member or two on this forum seem confused about me keeping my connections to ppl. in the rooms. I still go on occassion out of loyalty. Admittedly, a very small part of my compulsion to return to the rooms is out of a kind of fucked up superstition or something. But mostly it is b/c I have known many of these people for my whole entire adult life (I am 40). On OPF and other anti 12 step Internet blogs, I have noticed and been active in the discussion regarding how ppl. in the rooms treat us weirdly when we stop going.

OPF Joke

Q--- What do Penn and Teller, Monty Python’s Flying Circus and Jimbattle all have in common? A--- Spot the Looney!


If you can't open this post to read more, you can go to my blog and read it. The link below will take you there: Blog: Watch the following 4-minute video BEFORE you read the rest of this post. Then I will make it very clear how what the speaker said relates to my statement about all treatment and recovery programs. Below is the link to this video titled "Is Secular Humanism a religion or just a worldview?"

Stepper Cult Joke

What has Penn & Teller and Monty Pythons Flying Circus got in common? Spot the Looney !

IMPORTANT!!! First read below! - The Scientific Case for the Existence of God! (What Some OPF Members Don't Want You to Know)

A few months ago, I noticed that some OPF members were doing something very strange. The reason that I am not going to tell you about it on this blog is because, from time to time, someone uses their internet skills to make it impossible open the comments and read them. Realizing they might do the same thing to THIS post, I have place it on another blog. The link below will take you there: New Blog:


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