What makes Anti Stepper Cult people LEAVE this forum?

NoAAUK's rabid exposure of the false stepper cult
30% (3 votes)
The constant bickering and insults by Anti Steppers directed at other Anti Steppers
60% (6 votes)
Alternative cult promotional posts by steppers
10% (1 vote)
Total votes: 10

God, "Recovery", and Science

We have all heard of "evolution" (the idea that man came from an ape-like creature). This is also called "macro-evolution". However, it is not really science. It is simply a religious belief that is presented as science. Why? To trick people (like AA does) into accepting their religious beliefs. And there are thousands of real scientists with PhDs who know that evolution is not true. However, because most people (wrongly) believe that most scientists are looking for the truth they believe whatever most scientists say.

CAFETY (Community Alliance for the Ethical Treatment of Youth) website hacked August 9, 2014. New hosting has been quickly put in place. Help to stop the proliferation of Child Gulags and spread the word that CAFETY is still up and running.

Currently the main website of http://cafety.org has been hacked by unknown individuals and is down. During this temporary outage all queries have been sent to their Facebook page of https://www.facebook.com/CAFETY. The following is from their twitter account asking for help.

Community Alliance @CAFETY · Aug 9

Website hacked down, you can help us bring it back up! If you believe we should keep going, please help keep us... http://fb.me/6naWzENFo

Why I will never respond to a Jim Battle post? again?

Why? I wish to remain sober. Those who respond to jim battle will most likely get drunk. Why? Its because you cant make a simple decision?. Soberman

The Strange Death of Sam Kinison (The Famous Comedian, Ex-Cocaine Misuser, and Ex-Preacher)

There are several articles on different websites that tell this strange story of the famous Sam Kinison's death. I recommend you read the whole story but here is the part I want to share: "On Friday April 10, 1992 about 7:30 pm, Kinison and his wife were driving in a Pontiac Trans-am from Los Angeles to Laughlin, Nevada where he was going to perform before a sold out audience. He was sober and drug free. Behind his car was his brother Bill and two other assistants in a van with Kinison’s dog.

Robin Williams: What Does the Word of God Have to Say?

Without Christ, Robin Williams may have been powerless over devils (evils spirits) IF one or more was speaking to him in his mind, (Acts 5:3; Luke 11:24-26). And, according to the Word of God, he WAS living a life of surrender, which the Word of God calls "yielding", (Romans 6:13). He was surrendering to "unrighteousness", which means he was surrendering to doing things that he should not have been doing, (Romans 6:13). So maybe he DID need to hear a message of powerless, but not over drugs and alcohol.

RIP Mork-A sad day that maybe didn't have to go down that way?

Robin Williams' tragic death which at this point would appear to be from his own hands is just so sad that no words can truly convey the magnitude of the talent that we just lost.

In what seems to be a disturbing trend, this horrific event took place just a few short weeks after Robin had sought help with addictions and the depression that accompanied them.
He had just spent time at one of the most renowned 12 Step in-patient facilities in the world, Hazelden.

Attention: Jim Babble

Beware of Criticizing Others

Judge not, that you be not judged —Matthew 7:1

Jesus Christ Is Against the Codependency/Recovery Movement

(Adapted from the book titled "Twelve Steps To Destruction" with the permission of the authors). Considering how many people are attempting to cope with unsatisfactory relationships and difficult situations, the potential market for self-help books and codependency/recovery treatment is astronomical. The list of books on codependency/recovery grows along with those dealing with so-called addictions. They are popular best-sellers in Christian bookstores as well as in general bookstores. Evidently something is there. Something is wrong. People are looking for answers.

Can I Let This Go?

I had a heart to heart with my husband this morning and he totally gets it, he totally understands that, while I could deal with him putting his sobriety above everything, I couldn't deal with him putting AA above me, our family, his career, even his own needs. He said he felt anxiety when I was in Al-Anon because he felt like he had no control -- that the organization might change me in some way that he didn't like. That my involvement might lead to me becoming someone he couldn't relate to, or even to us separating.

Time to return to exposing the stepper cult

Although its been fun insulting ben and I have to admit I am starting to enjoy it (must be starting to get as sick as him) there's still too many vulnerable stepper cult victims to try and help deprogram (albeit 'rabidly'). I say again although it has been fun ben, I must get back to my brand of boringly repetitive exposing of the stepper cult for the lying, fear-mongering, predatory, coercive cult that it is. I just wish somebody had exposed this cult 30 years ago......sure would have saved me a lot of pain and stopped me wasting my life.

What 12 Step group was ben a member of

Alcoholics Anonymous
0% (0 votes)
Narcotics Anonymous
0% (0 votes)
Insulters Anonymous
100% (2 votes)
Total votes: 2

Tricks, Lies, and "Dumb Logic" (Part 2)

Most scientists actually believe that billions of years ago "nothing" exploded and created everything, including you and me. What a ridiculous thing to believe and teach. However, if most scientists say that something is true many people will believe it no matter how ridiculous it is. Believing that "nothing" can explode is like believing that "no one" wrote what you are reading right now - that the words just appeared all by themselves out of nowhere. Nevertheless, this crazy idea that "nothing" created everything is in public school textbooks. Why?

Why Let Facts Get In the Way Of An Entertaining Conspiracy Theory?

I decided to do some research. It took about 5 minutes to discover that the information being disseminated on this forum regarding the link between The Oxford Group and AA is incorrect.

Seriously Jim

Do you really think it's a fair thing to spam the forum? Do you really think god approves of what your doing? Is God ok with the lies you practice? Do you really think your setting a good christian example?

God As We Understand Him Bless Al-Anon

Eventhough I hate it. And, by the way, I’m finally out. (Someone from the meeting took pity on me and took over my commitment.) It took about a week of me going to Al-Anon for my husband to begin to question 12-Step. Who were these people I was spending all this time with? (Just people like me who need help, dear). Why did I need to go every day and leave him alone to watch the kids? (I’m in recovery just like you and I need support and spiritual enlightenment). What is hell is codependence? (It’s a disease just like your alcoholism, and the whole family has it!) Who is Mariah?

Einstein (the Scientist and Genius) Presented Scientific Evidence for the Existence of God

Top atheist, Anthony Flew, has changed his mind about God. He said that Albert Einstein was right when he felt that there must be intelligence behind the integrated complexities in the natural world. In simple English, that means that Einstein said that dead things like rocks, metal, plastic, light, and air are made up of such complicated systems that depend on each other to exist, that there must be some intelligent being that put them together. Anthony Flew said that with the huge discoveries in biological science since Einstein's day, its even more obvious there must be a God.

No fuckin' way

Tricks, Lies, and "Dumb Logic" (Part 1)

One of the greatest problems today is that most people don't think. They simply believe whatever they hear without giving it much thought, especially when it is something they want to believe. However, if you are a person who thinks honestly about things, you will see that what is said in this video makes perfectly good sense. So listen to some of the tricks, lies and "dumb logic" that is used to deceive millions and millions of people. Orange rightly states that his "site is best viewed with a brain". Well the same is true when it comes to watching this video.

A daily reprieve?

This is the kind of profound knowledge every alcoholic needs to recover successfully in the year 2014:

Drunk or Alcoholic? What is the Difference? & Can Jesus Christ Help You Become Free?

Is there a difference between being a drunk and being an alcoholic? Are addictions the result of disease or genetics, or is it a matter of the heart? Can an addiction be overcome without the help of pop psychology? These are questions that the author of the following article tries to answer. Click this link to read the rest of this article: http://www.exdrunkard.com/

Scientific evidence proves Jim Battle to be the village idiot, Does he have any shame?????

No Jim's usen to being a fool
80% (4 votes)
Yes Jim's not that usen to being a fool
20% (1 vote)
Total votes: 5

i think the endless anti god debate - is distracting from the anti aa issue.

and i think people who argue about god one way or the other ain't getting enough burning bush.

Where The Bible & The Orange Papers Agree and Disagree (Part 3) - Addictive Voice or Lust & Devils?

(Words in the [brackets] are mine unless stated otherwise.) If you've read the homepage of The Orange Papers, you know that these papers are a book which presents Orange's "analysis of Alcoholics Anonymous and substance misuse recovery programs, and real recovery." Orange does a wonderful job of exposing AA for the evil program that it is and offers a wealth of good information. In doing so, he displays a very analytical mind which is something I greatly admire. However, for the benefit of true believers in Christ, I would like to present a Christian perspective

Easter Sunday, B.C.

A viral "news story" published on DailyCurrant.com claims that former Alaska governor and Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin proclaimed during a recent TV interview that "We need to return Easter back to the way it was when Jesus was alive."


Sarah Palin claimed today that Jesus Christ celebrated Easter during his time on Earth.

Christian Boy Dies For 3 Minutes, Meets Allah in Heaven

A young Christian boy who briefly died on a surgeon’s operating table this weekend says he met someone named Allah in heaven. Bobby Anderson, the son of a well-known Christian pastor in Atlanta, suffered internal injuries from an automobile accident and was technically dead for 3 minutes before being resuscitated. During that time the 12-year-old claims he visited the afterlife and spoke to several leading figures of the Islamic religion.


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