Right in front o my face.Colorado- changed laws. Anyone asking for PAIN MEDS-musy see Psych then PAIN MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST then maybe can have PAIN MEDS All this designed to SUCKER FOOLS into multi billion$$$ rehab industry/12 step industry daly 1,000's DEAD-cigarettes,booze,coffee,tea-overeating but lets SCREW with disabled ,elderly{30%+ live w/chronic PAIN} AMA wants to feed demon/monster=rehab>> 12 step rehab industry and we all know steppers shoved this LAW onto us w 12 step shiite protects noone-costs=$500+ to see 3 drs to be pain free

Why do steppers appear to like the word 'denial?'

'Denial' is a brilliant word to regurgitate at mettings along with 'resentment' and 'character defect' etc
67% (2 votes)
Some people think constantly regurgitating the word 'denial' makes them somehow sound inteligent
0% (0 votes)
Some people just like saying the word 'denial.'
0% (0 votes)
I can't for the life of me understand why
0% (0 votes)
I much prefer the word 'crocodile' or something
33% (1 vote)
Total votes: 3

Is some Soap Scrip writer at the British ITV, now a stepper cult promoter?

No, like most people because of extensive public censorship etc sombody thinks they are genuinly helping others in need
0% (0 votes)
Yes, sombody has been frightened into thinking they are saving their own life by cult recruiting on a grand scale
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 0

They are at it again

while there has been a bit of disagreement amongst the Anti Stepper Cult fraternity of late, the steppers are once again trying to publicise the AA or Bill Wilsons version of the Oxford Group cult. This time AA has actually been mentioned by name when the bad habit of alcohol abuse is being once again dealt with by an ITV Soap. This time its Emmerdale's Laurel (as opposed to Coronation Streets Peter Barlow) who has developed a 'drinking problem.......to be cured by....you guessed it.....your friendly neighbourhood ..AA

What is that line?

What is that line from the 'big book' that arrogantly talks about helping all people with AA 'principles', not just drunks.

Anne Fletcher article

This is sad: Anne Fletcher has gone off the deep end and is repeating A.A. slogans:


Should people keep quiet about the fact that they believe a tree or a rock or a wheel barrow can miracle them to stop drinking?

Yes, if you dont censor such beliefs Joe Public will think you are a barm pot and not a selfless caring person
0% (0 votes)
No, a rock, tree, light bulb, deck chair or whatever really can miracle you into quitting drinking....LOL
100% (3 votes)
Total votes: 3


Yes, as the site you mentioned in your comment is mine, approving (or not) comments is entirely up to me.
Re: your remark about 'jumping on Orange's coattails,' actually I had written the book before I joined this forum. I wonder if you are making similar snide remarks to other members of this forum who have also written books and have their own websites. Either way, I greatly respect Mr. Orange, and am not stealing any of his glory by mentioning his site on mine. If he had objected, he surely would have said so.


Fun part growing up in Christism country is I got to eat CHRISTISM science/history.
daily food.all day long.so here's the myth-we all's created from 2 two TWO people
there was only TWO adam and eve /course we also got hit with
original sin= they done went an got it on
>Hold the presses- seems that's not the truth.somewhere along the lines human's done went and
eveeolved beyond this Holy grail of His-story !!
So we're still searching for origins and suprise


so it would cause more serious pain to them.
2 arranged for his 17 years old daughter to have SEX WITH OLDER GUY IN AA
demanded she leave her same age school boyfriend
3.grandson committed suicide
5>>>> free to add to list of why co-was equal in shittting in others lives as BW
stupid guy Dr.shoulda had BW pay him part of the cash cow for his own use


SURE looks like this is now the ANUS/HELL MIND FORUM
all all comments are either from or to both these depsearately insane
believers in their own superiority over all on OPF>
when does that ability to IGNORE KICK IN???
noaa- is now just pitiable/pathetic his real jesu big book goddd
tells all o us how we're hypocrites =we disagree with aauk's godddd noaa
pretending to be antiAA does not help others- it simply generates hatred.

"Just Say No to 12-Step Cults!"

"Just Say No to 12-Step Cults!"
t-shirts, bags, bumper stickers, buttons, etc.
available on Zazzle:


B Wilson/Rape JOKE

Mother superiior and a novice num went to the zoo.
Some bad luck as it was feeding time for the gorillas and
idiot had left the door open.
Huge gorilla grabbed the Mother Superior,dragged her into his man made cavve
raped.then threw her out.
Poeple came running to help her/Ambualnce took her to Hospital
then seeing just few scathes and small bruises/back to their convent.
Weeks went by and the Novice nun saw the Mother Superior was crying.
What's wrong.Is something wrong??

Disease Theory of Alcoholism - A head full of AA (Part 2)

Published on Mar 14, 2015
The highly religious organization alcoholics anonymous, which believes in the disease theory, and gets recruits from courts houses, doctor offices, rehabs, and jails, etc., is known for it's members claims that they have a disease that only they can understand and that they can help someone who has it.

What exact criticism of the stepper cult does Smart Recovery want to censor?

That attendance at 12 step cults does NOT seem to work for the majority, despite claims to the contrary?
0% (0 votes)
That attendance at 12 step cults actually screws the minds of many of those that do
0% (0 votes)
That 13 stepping not only appears to be the 'norm' at many 12 step groups but is often seen as a perk of membership of the cult
0% (0 votes)
That suicide appears to be highly prevalent amongst members of the 12 step cults
0% (0 votes)
Any other aspect of the 12 step cults Smart appears to want to censor, please use comments
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 0

Who exactly does censorship of any criticism of AA, as demanded by Smart Recovery, actually help?

The Anti Stepper Cult Movement ?
0% (0 votes)
Substance Misusers in general ?
0% (0 votes)
Manknd as a whole ?
33% (1 vote)
Establishment of the Truth ?
0% (0 votes)
AA and its 12 step clones ?
67% (2 votes)
Total votes: 3

The Business of Recovery - New Documentary!

new film exposing rehab and AA. I saw it last year when the film maker and I connected. Its a really great film. SAD. good. Real. Exposing of rehab and AA. All ex steppers will love it . https://www.facebook.com/thebusinessofrecovery

Disease Theory of Alcoholics Anonymous

Published on Mar 11, 2015
Alcoholics Anonymous and 12 Step programs claim that addiction is a disease that you are powerless over, yet they have no proof of this claim and refuse to admit that addiction is a choice. Instead they claim that it is a spiritual malady that needs a spiritual solution that no other known disease needs. Can you name any other 'disease" that praying to a god of our own choosing can fix?

Self-Control, Impulse Control, an internal Locus

of control has been found to predict health and possibility of substance abuse in the future. This finding was originally noted at Stanford in the Marshmallow experiment. It has value and can be compared and contrasted with those unfortunates that find their way to AA.

How does One Embed a YouTube Video in their Blog?

Normally I'd ask JR, but I'm afraid that what he'd tell me to do is an anatomical impossibility.

A Failed LSD Experiment

I came across mention of this bizarre Canadian experiment from the 1960's in a book I am reading at the moment (The Psychopath Test by Jon Ronson):


According to the book one poor teenage car thief was incorrectly diagnosed as being a psychopath and ended up being included in the experiment.

It appears there are worse fates than being mandated to attend AA meetings.

Leonard Neel arrested for bringing loaded sawed off .22 rifle to Wichita Falls, Texas "Something New" Narcotics Anonymous meeting and has shotgun in car as backup

Man Arrested With Gun At Narcotics Meeting

Posted: Mar 02, 2015 3:42 AM UTC Updated: Mar 03, 2015 1:33 AM UTC

Police have released the name of a man who police say showed up with a gun to Something New, a narcotics anonymous meeting, Sunday night. Leonard Victor Neel has been charged with Possession of a Prohibited Weapon.

Wichita Falls police say it happened at the corner of Avenue J and Grant.

60 Minutes tells the Oxford House Story

Uploaded on Dec 3, 2009

http://PatrickNeilBarber.com Sedona "Would you be shocked to learn that a bunch of recovering alcoholics and addicts would like to rent the house next door to you?" "Well the man who would like to make that happen is Paul Molloy. Why does he want to put those people next door to you? And who is he anyway?"

Finally found out what a "real alcoholic" is.

Janus has used the 'real alcoholic' or 'real addict' defense over a dozen times in her tenure on the opf. In another thread that she started about mystical experiences, she expands on what the addict is really searching for. In a nutshell, the real addict is one that desires an ego deflating spiritual experience, which of course she claims AA and NA provide.



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