The Raw Story and Alternet have covered the story 12 steps to danger

Times have changed, yes it is poltically correct to challenge 12 steps there are 386 comments alone on the RAw story cover of this last years story :12 steps to danger by Garielle Glaser , altenet has also done a cover on this story http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/11/twelve-steps-to-danger-how-alcoholics...

The Sober Truth CBS 48 Hours

How would you describe Janus (bearing in mind she might have you in Court)

An infallible and indispensable aid to stopping drinking and drugging (Just like the stepper cult)
0% (0 votes)
A monumental and exceptional spiritual (not religious) guru with serenity literally oozing out of her ears
0% (0 votes)
A total 'nutjob' completely divorced from reality (as most stepper cult enthusiasts are )
43% (3 votes)
A typical lying , fear-mongering stepper cult recruiter
14% (1 vote)
Other.....if there is one
43% (3 votes)
Total votes: 7

Another News Flash "Most Heavy Drinkers Are Not Alcoholics" according to a report from the Centers For Disease Control (CDC) in Atlanta, Ga in November, 2014

Most Heavy Drinkers Are Not Alcoholics

By Tara Parker-Pope
November 20, 2014 5:30 pm

Most people who drink to get drunk are not alcoholics, suggesting that more can be done to help heavy drinkers cut back, a new government report concludes (http://www.cdc.gov/pcd/issues/2014/14_0329.htm).

Time to move on

Termination Notice — 60 Days. This is a termination notice. You must vacate by 01/25/2015

News Flash - Not all Churches have AA meetings and if you are in Sussex County, Sparta Township, NJ and you really need a meeting, be careful which church you go to. You might end up in jail.

Intoxicated man who was searching for AA meeting arrested for trespassing, Sparta cops say

By Louis C. Hochman | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
on November 13, 2014 at 3:41 PM, updated November 13, 2014 at 4:18 PM

SPARTA — Police arrested a man they say was under the influence of alcohol and drugs — after he aggressively tried to find an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting.

AA's holiest of holies. Happy Thanksgiving!

Have you made your 'gratitude list' for the most holy of AA holy days. Here are a few suggestions for you to thank "God" for. Select Agents Ebola Nuclear Waste Malaria Aids Cystic Fibrosis Heart Disease Stokes Weapons of Mass Destructions War Tarantula Hawk Bites Trigeminal Neuralgia Brainerd Diarrhea Sickle Cell Anemia Ondine’s Curse And my favorite, have you thanked your AA (Read: xtian) "God" for AA and the thousands of other religions, ever holding back the progress of humanity, stifling science that finds solutions to these and other problems.

Holidays: another "casualty" of A.A.

One of the first oddities I noticed when I first became eyeball-deep in Steppers was their tendency to refer to A.A. and N.A. as their 'real' family or their 'true' family. Some of the individuals regularly associated with their blood-relatives, which in my POV meant they were hypocrites. While my family retained our sense of Family, holidays as we knew them to be disappeared.

Jesus alive & well in Murgon

'Spose I shoulda told yez earlier, Jesus & Mary Mags live up the road from me in Murgon, they're acquiring land & followers & building a compound. Get ya details from Mr Goggles just bang in Jesus, Murgon, Courier Mail.

94 reads between two posts made today.

Not one comment. Pussies.

AA creates so-called 'alcoholics' and kills drunks.

Psychological abuse and religious indoctrination. Nothing more, nothing less. Carry on. Oh yeah, fuck off and die @nus.

CBS 48 Hours to run the Karla Brada Alcoholics Anonymous story on Saturday November 29, 2014 at 10 p.m. ET/PT. Preview of the show "The Sober Truth"

Published on Nov 25, 2014
All new: A young woman, an alcoholic, thought she found help and a safe place -- what she found was a killer. "48 Hours" correspondent Maureen Maher reports Saturday, Nov. 29 at 10 p.m. ET/PT on CBS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feP863kXbcw

Why Doesn't AA Shut Down The Orange Papers?

Orange's latest blog post suggests that anyone with decent IT skills and a grudge against this site can put it out of action with very little effort. That being the case, and given that AA is a malevolent, wealthy cult with influence that extends far and wide (according to the Orange Papers), why doesn't AA simply shut the site down for good?

Perhaps it doesn't do so because it is simply a self-help group with no great power, influence, or desire to harm its detractors?

Dull, I know, but true.

Problems on the site

This is old news, but I'm going to post it anyway just to clarify the issues:

A bunch of people emailed to me to say that the web site was down. Thanks for all of the messages, although I didn't see them until it was all over.

Orange..links on website

Hi Orange,

I'm unable to open http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-root570.html#Dinger

I found the link @ "Added more documentation about the Catholic Church banning Dr. Frank Buchman's Oxford Group and Moral Re-Armament, here."

I'm interested in reading that and also want to give you a heads up.

Thanks!

The Freedom to Recover

is a good easy read. I highly recommend it to anyone who wants to recover from an addiction or deprogram from being a 12 step victim. Come, take back your power. Thank you Rolf Ankerman. I hope more people write more books. :-)

The Gang of Four is no more

The Gang of Four have left the OPF, although one ex-member has publicly relapsed.

The Freedom to Fabricate by Rolf Angerman

Angerman claims to be a professional in the dependency field.

Angerman defines a professional as: "A professional is anyone who get's paid for what they do".

Really?

So a hamburger flipper at Mcdonalds is a professional? NOT

The Heresy of the Twelve Steps - Idolatry (Part 13)

In the essay titled "The Heresy of the Twelve Steps", Orange points out that AA teaches that five things won't happen for you if your personal version of "God" or "Higher Power" doesn't deliver miracles on demand.

To continue to help him show just how much AA's teachings differ from the teachings of the Bible I'm going to address THE LAST THING that supposedly won't happen which is...

Dr. William Mora

Dr. William Mora got his education from Loma Linda University

Loma Linda University (LLU) is a Seventh-day Adventist coeducational health sciences university located in Loma Linda, California, United States.

William posted "The literature of Natural Recovery or Self Change accepts change that accompanies someone that is in a religion and attributes that change to their religion."

CAN YOU SAY STEPPER OF ANOTHER SHADE!
So you DOOOO believe in Faith Healing!!!!!! Thought so :-)

Should the boxer Tony Bellow be sanctioned for asking Nathan Cleverly (the WBO light heavyweight Champion of 2010) if he still goes to Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) meetings?


I guess it is an insult to ask if you have been to an AA meeting lately. Have they read the Alcoholics Anonymous literature claiming that it is alright to be an AA member?

Tony Bellew could face boxing authorities after 'Alcoholics Anonymous' insult to opponent Nathan Cleverly

By By Martin Domin for the Daily Mail
Published: 22:34 GMT, 20 November 2014 | Updated: 08:08 GMT, 21 November 2014

The Freedom to Recover-Caveat Emptor-3 Misinformation-1

Misinformation is false or inaccurate information that is spread unintentionally.

Introduction

“For far too long, alcoholism has been seen as a "disease" in which those afflicted have absolutely no personal control of their plight.”

Goodbye

DO you believe substance depedency does not exist - for anyone?

yes
38% (3 votes)
no
63% (5 votes)
Total votes: 8

The Freedom to Recover-Caveat Emptor-2 The Book

In my prior posting I mentioned problems of Ethics with the Author's description of himself...."working in the field of dependency..." and he may have his shit together, and if so, it would serve him well to change this description as this is not accurate.

The book in the front cover states “The Freedom to Recover” and then goes on to say that it is “An evolutionary and realistic guide to overcoming alcoholism without the dogma of the AA church and the 12 step religion”

The Freedom to Recover-Caveat Emptor-1 The Author

The Freedom to Recover---Caveat Emptor-1 The Author: Who is Rolf Ankermann According to Rolf Ankermann as stated on the Amazon site promoting a book he wants you to read? I read in about 30 minutes and it is filled with misinformation.
  • About the Author Rolf Ankermann is one of an ever-growing group of professionals working in the dependency field who flat out do not accept the "disease" model of addiction.
  • OPF Joke

    All is peaceful at OPF Heaven, God is sat at his throne, JR Harris is sat at His right hand, Rolf Ankermann is sat at His left hand....then Brett rolls up at the 'pearly gates.' "Who are you?" God asks. Brett replies "Brett......and you are sat in MY seat."

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