One more time....

I am not Subhuti, I have been here for how long and I haven't had one problem with anyone, then SandyB and Matt show up and all of sudden I am accused of this crazy talk, Subhuti is spouting off.
Are we all sleeping or what....this is the same person SandyB = Subhuti = Felice Eliscue. She is concocting this whole charade because I won't engage her, so she'll come up with anything to get me banned.

Catholic's nor AA make any sense/intertwined

A Catholic Vicar ,to raise money for the church tried
to buy a Racehorse,but he only had enough money
to buy a Donkey.He entered the donkey into a race.
The Donkey came in third.
Next day ,headline in racing papers
"VICARS ASS SHOWS" Pleased with how his donkey had done
The vicar tried another race and the donkey won.
Headlines in racing papers 'VICAR'S ASS OUT IN FRONT."
CATHOLIC BISHOP read he news and got upset
He told the Vicar-No more races for the donkey.
Headlines read "BISHOP SCRATCHES VICAR'S ASS"

Alcoholics Anonymous (AA): Predators Preying

McKinney man gets maximum 20-year sentence

By Valerie Wigglesworth
http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2013/12/sentencing-pending-for-man-convi...

vwigglesworth@dallasnews.com

9:26 am on December 27, 2013

Going to Al-Anon Last Night

I've been trying to get out the house on my own as much as I can recently. I try to schedule something to do for myself every day. I've had three and half years of my husband going to A.A. 5-7 times a week and, well, I feel I deserve at least as much. Last night I noticed I had scheduled an Al-Anon meeting, one where some of the people are interesting me. But since the last Al-Anon meeting I had gone to was such a disaster, I didn't know if I should go or not. I noticed there was a meditation drop-in class at my local yoga studio so I went there.

Can the internet be moderated?

Yes
0% (0 votes)
Yes, & Orange will doing some moderating this weekend
100% (3 votes)
Total votes: 3

I do what I do simply because........I care......

I'll try to keep this fairly short and to the point. First and foremost my apologies to anyone who happens to peruse this site and that has had to endure this bizarre warfare. Why I was targeted is still kind of a mystery to me, perhaps I'm viewed as a threat by those who want to keep the unhealthy 12 step methodologies alive as the accepted paradigm for overcoming one's alcohol/drug dependencies.

bmoore888888 hands thefreedomtorecover.com his ass, on The Fix

Stanton Peele bmoore888888
7 days ago
I actually think that Juliet's resolution -- "I'll organize a group that works for me for my year on probation, then I'm done; I'm trying to live my life, not be a group member" -- is a better model of group support than AA and other permanent group memberships.
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Drug Counselor gets 55 years for driving with dying man on her car

http://news.yahoo.com/woman-drove-dying-man-car-gets-prison-193050640.html
LOS ANGELES (AP) — A substance-abuse counselor was sentenced Thursday to 55 years to life in prison for hitting a pedestrian with her car and driving through a Los Angeles suburb with the dying man on her windshield.

Texas Governor Rick Perry compares Homosexuality to Alcoholism in AA General Service Area 65, 66, 67, 68

In a very controversial move, Republican Texas Governor James Richard "Rick" Perry compares being a homosexual to being an alcoholic and continues on his platform backing reparative therapy (often termed as pray the gay away) to "fix" people who are gay . Rick Perry is the 47th Governor of Texas with the longest serving tenure of any Governor in Texas taking the reigns in December 2000 from George W, Bush when he resigned to run for the US Presidential Office. Running for US President in 2010, Perry suspended his presidential race in 2012 endorsing Mitt Romney.

Careful, JESUS IS WATCHING YOU

Late one night,a burglar broke into a house
that he thought was empty.Tiptoeing through
the living room he heard "JESUS IS WATCHING YOU !!'
Again the room became silent. so on with the robbery.
Voice boomed again."JESUS IS WATCHING YOU !!"
Frightened,paniced,scared-he looked around and saw
a parrot in a dark corner,in it's cage.
He asked the parrot--"did you say that ??
Did you say JESUS IS WATCHING YOU ??"
OMG,Whew, what a relief.what's your name Parrot?
Clarance.
What a stupid name for a parrot.

LA planning board argues that location of a restaurant selling beer and wine is not a "trigger" and allows the establishment on the bottom floor of Skid Row Housing Trust's New Genesis Apartments in LA June 11, 2014

L.A. planning panel OKs alcohol permit for skid row apartments

By Gale Holland - June 11, 2014

A Los Angeles city planning commission ruled late Tuesday that beer and wine can be served at a restaurant on the ground floor of a skid row apartment complex that houses recovering alcoholics and drug addicts.

Is God a :-

Doorknob?
25% (1 vote)
Light Bulb?
0% (0 votes)
Tree?
0% (0 votes)
Cement Mixer?
0% (0 votes)
TV Set?
0% (0 votes)
Telephone Box?
0% (0 votes)
Other nonsensical Stepper Cult figment of an insane imagination.......please comment
0% (0 votes)
The real God is none of the above
75% (3 votes)
Total votes: 4

bmoore888888

Hey, let's not forget bmoore888888, a righteous dude, who handed Rolf his ass over at The Fix, and got this started.

bmoore888888 • 3 days ago
Wow, Mr. "Freedomtorecover.com there really doensn't seem to be much "freedom" at all in your rigid, uncompromising and unyealding approach to any other kind of "recovery" but your own! It seem like mywayorthehighway.com might be a more accuate description of your particularily narrow-minded approach to recovery after all!

So who actually is the doctrinal "control freak" in this discussion?

How do you stop the expansion of the Sedgwick County, Kansas Prison System? You increase the number of people sent to AA, NA and Church...

Sedgwick County takes action to avoid jail expansion

Wednesday, June 11, 2014 12:17 AM

Sedgwick County avoids jail expansion, saves money by keeping people out of jail

Sedgwick County takes action to avoid jail expansion

By TIM HORAN

Read the rest: http://www.salina.com/news/Sedgwick1

-SNIP-

Saline County has a drug court and mediation for juveniles, Kochanowski said.

Key largo, Florida based adiction recovery group believes that "Bible-Based recovery" is the only way. The Christian version of 12 Steps one day after AA Founders Day June 10 - Celebrate Recovery

Bible-based recovery program meets in village

BY JOSH GORE Free Press Staff - Wednesday, June 11, 2014
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jgore@keysnews.com

KEY LARGO -- For 15 years, Brad Lange was at war with himself every time he touched a drop of alcohol.

Lange was in and out of Alcoholics Anonymous and could only maintain sobriety for part of the year. He said he was overdrinking and it was negatively impacting his lifestyle.

@Rolf, Subhuti and the viewing public

Rolf, I am not Subhuti nor am I on the fix. I have been on vacation and just got back.
Listen.......I warned everyone here about SandyB (Felice). Now here she is....lol.
Subhuti, I'm good.
Plus, Rolf, you and I, have never had a problem.....stay with the facts. I will not discuss anymore of this nonsense on this forum. The rest of my communication will be done off this forum.

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - June 10th (Dr. Bob's last drink supposedly) "PROOF" that AA works with no "proof" on Samefacts: "How Scientists Came to Recognize the Benefits of Alcoholics Anonymous" comments disabled..

How Scientists Came to Recognize the Benefits of Alcoholics Anonymous

June 10, 2014 By Keith Humphreys

Every year or so I get a call from a journalist who wants me to come on some show with “Someone who is saying that there is no evidence that Alcoholics Anonymous works!”.

I have learned to respond by asking “How much is their new book selling for?”.

Martin Nicolaus Lifering on the Disease Model of Addiction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHXwJmNTJ40
The disease model is founded on a hunch not on evidence and not on science it draws from religion, pop psychology and moral attitudes.
Basic concepts of the disease theory:
The disease model implies alcohol abuse is a spiritual disease that can only be cured by spiritual enlightment which involves in surrender to a higher power.

Faith & Belief VS Faith Healing

Posted this true story b-4.
What you believe has awesome powerr oer your life
I studied Chen Man Cheng Tai-chi and ahve read
some of his books
One story was about 2 patients who saw the same Dr.
One had a bad COLD the other had TUBERCULOSIS
the nurse was having her time of the month and
mixed up the diagnoses=
Nurse told guy w/TB-You have a bad cold.
go home,take some cold showers,eat lots of fruits
and you will be fine,
Guy with a bad cold was told
Go home and make your final arrangements

Frank Buchman facism regligious fundamentalism The F Word

Scroll down to the the article " the F word"

http://www.counterpunch.org/2008/06/13/the-f-word/
Moral Re-Armament,” coined by Buchman as Europe entered World War II, was the name that eventually stuck. Not quite an organization—there were no dues or membership rolls—but less democratic in spirit than a social movement, Moral Re-Armament deployed its military metaphors through Buchman’s never-ending lecture tour,

ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS ADMITS THEIR ROLE IN SUICIDE AND DISASTROUS RESULTS

For the Professionals

THE AA MEMBER-MEDICATION & OTHER DRUGS

This is AA General Service Conference approved literature

Because of the difficulties that many alcoholics have with drugs some members have taken the position that no one in AA should take any medication, while this position has undoubtedly prevented relapses for some, it has meant disaster for others.

Help Wanted: Spiritual Care Professional


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On the outside looking in.

It's been good stepping back & having a look from outside, I've checked out a few other forums too, & it occurs to me, there's some bloody sick individuals who post regulary here, no better than the sicko's you find in the roomz really, it'ud be funny if it wasn't so sad. Glad I just have a browse now & then now.

Aaron Ybarra? Suspected Seattle Pacific University Shooter was trying to turn his life around in AA - One dead, three wounded Thursday June 5, 2014

Friend: Accused gunman was 'turning life around'

By KOMO STAFF Published 8:05 am, Friday, June 6, 2014

KIRKLAND, Wash. - A friend of the suspected gunman who killed one man and wounded two other people at the Seattle Pacific University campus says he was "flabbergasted" when he heard the tragic news.

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