munchousen by proxy alcohol disorder? it IS catchy.....

munchousen by proxy alcohol disorder? it IS catchy.....

Painful Text Messaging

ME: Al-Anon scares me because I don't want to go outside of our marriage to get my emotional needs met like you have had to do. I know I haven't been a good wife. I can't compete with the Program or even the women you have made strong friendships with there. Your sobriety is at stake and I don't want to put that at risk. But the type of marriage the program wants me to settle for does not seem fulfilling to me. What is the point?

Heroin Addict Sentenced Differently....Not AA

An Ohio judge that sentenced a 30 year old woman to receive a shot of Vivitrol each month instead of jail time. Vivitrol is an opiate-blocking medication that reduces cravings and causes precipitated withdraw if an opiate is used.

Any thoughts about this? Certainly better than 12 Step groups or a 12 Step Rehab but it is forcing a medication on a person.

I haven't seen many news articles about this kind of sentencing but I'm thinking that research into this would be interesting.

Now that the downsides of Alcoholics Anonymous are starting to hit major news outlets again it is important to remember the lessons learned by The New Republic because of Stephen Randall Glass in 1998

Stephen Randall Glass was a reporter at The New Republic Magazine and was caught prefabricating stories and can explain why integrity and traceability of sources is so important in the Anti-AA movement, especially if we go to the media with them.

This Forum is Fucked

The likes of Danny Bennison, well Danny Bennison himself, have screwed yet another forum. This will not go away until the majority of the membership does something about it. I'm tired of Used to be fun, but now it's just boring.


Eye Opener

From day one I felt that their was something off about AA but said to myself what the hell i'll give it a shot. As time went by and I continued to go to meetings I still questioned as to weather I should continue with AA, things still didn't seem right. It was suggested to me that I start attending the primary purpose big book study in which they go through the book line by line with a question read out of a manual and the answer was a sentence from the big book going line by line from start to finish, doing this was when my eyes really started to open and see AA for what is was.

Stepper Cult Joke

What do you call an Ass/arse ole with a Ph.D?

An Ass/Arse ole with a Ph.D

I hate running into stepper cult members.

It's always the same question "so have you been drinking" .they seem disappointed when I tell them no. Then they precede to tell me how worried they are about me. When I was asked why I was no longer going to meetings I told them strait up I could no longer buy what AA was selling.

2nd edition, quitting and without aa, etc. HELP

yes, i am becoming an annoyingly lazy person. but i am an idiot about navigating the opf. someone posted on here recently that somewhere in the 2ns edition the bb was actually "humble" enuf to mention drinkers who've gotten well on their own and who've lived quiet normal lives, etc. fucking fuck. i cannot find it. i promise this is my last question outta the blue like this. why'd they change it? i have been thinking about this all day today. the post i read (re: the 2nd edition, etc.) also had a super smart point about marty mann, etc.

Which enity is THE MOST reponsible for Alcoholics Anonymous being so prevelant in today's society? Please explain.

Alcoholics Anonymous World Srevices, Inc (The publishing arm)
0% (0 votes)
General Service Board of Alcoholics Anonymous, Inc (Logistics and planning arm)
14% (1 vote)
Alcoholics Anonymous members (In entirety following the instructions of the two entities above)
71% (5 votes)
The court systems allowing people to be mandated to AA
14% (1 vote)
Probation and Parole systems forcing attendance at AA
0% (0 votes)
Politicians allowing the prevalence of AA in Court, Probation and Parole systems.
0% (0 votes)
Media outlets pushing AA as a cure. (Newspapers, Film and Radio)
0% (0 votes)
Landlords renting or allowing AA meetings to be held on their property
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 7

Stepper Cult Joke

What does Costa Rica's 2014 World Cup Squad and the stepper cult NOT have in common?

Costa Rica DO get results.

aa--religious--which states?

i realize i could look this up on my own, but can someone point me in the right direction? which states have deemed aa a religious organization in their court system? merci.

Stepper Cult Joke

What have England's 2014 World Cup Squad and the Stepper Cult got in common?

They both can't get any results

Hello and a Question

I posted the below on the Introductions forum, so if you read it there, I apologize for the repetition. But I'm new here and I don't know if people read the Blogs more.


Hi everybody, I'm new here. Thank you, Agent Orange for having this board and for thinking and writing about this subject in so much depth.

Appropriate uses for the “Big Book” & other AA propaganda

NoAAUK got me going on this idea in another blog, but I think the concept is worthy of exploration in an arena of its own. So... the request is that any interested parties please contribute their ideas on good and appropriate uses for the BB and any other AA printed drivel. I’ll start it off:
Emergency toilet paper.
Campfire-starting material.
Birdcage floor covering.
Hollow it out and use it for storage of small valuable items (after all, what burglar would check a BB?).

Is it illegal to warn people of a DUI checkpoint in Ohio where Alcoholics Anonymous was born and has become the preferred State religion to be mandated too by the US court system?

Superhero for drunk drivers arrested for warning of checkpoint

By Associated Press
June 19, 2014 | 8:02am

CLEVELAND — A suburban Cleveland man says police violated his First Amendment rights to free speech when they cited him for holding a sign warning motorists to turn if they wanted to avoid a drunken-driving checkpoint.

Douglas Odolecki, 43, warned motorists with the sign Friday night in Parma that said: “Check point ahead! Turn now!”

Crazy things said in AA meetings

I was just thinking of some of the crazy things I've heard while in meetings and thought I'd share a few and hope others do the same.

Even if I wasn't a alcoholic I would say I was so I could be a member of AA.

The only reason one who hasn't worked the steps and is sober is because of God's grace and they have a year to do so.

It's better to believe in God and find out their isn't one than not believe and find out their is.

To drink is to die.

Your only as sick as your secrets.

God guided Bill's hand when he wrote the big book.

Man Guilty of Child Porn Possession of Girl Being Raped Attends Narcotics Anonymous Meetings

Man Guilty of Child Porn Possession of Girl Being Raped by Her Father Attends Narcotics Anonymous Meetings

By Susan Sarkauskas

A St. Charles man was ordered Wednesday to pay restitution to a child pornography victim, videos of whom are among the most downloaded worldwide.

It was part of the sentence for Gary L. Harris, 53, who pleaded guilty in March to aggravated possession of child pornography of a victim under age 13, and to possession of marijuana.

New 1980's Rehab Drama portrayal to be shown on Showtime with Robert Downey Jr. as producer.

A new premium drama show is being developed at Showtime portraying a Rehab stint during the 1980's produced by Robert Downey Jr. and his wife Susan Downey under their Team Downey Banner. Robert Downey Jr. has been in the headlines for numerous drug and alcohol problems and his wife Susan is credited with helping him with his problems. It will be interesting to see how AA/NA is shown and if the upsides as well as the downsides are explored.

Showtime Developing 1980s Rehab Drama Produced By Robert Downey Jr.

Question for Orange

Why are you leaving that wildly inappropriate and out-of-place stupidity about college essays in place?

Should we all start doing blog entries airing out our feelings about decorative gardening issues, the best ways to fix flat bicycle tires, household pet colonic health and hygiene concerns and other similarly inappropriate and out-of-place crap?

Six piece of advice to write admission essay that stand out

College application essay is the most important part of the college admission process. College admission essay must capture your character and you must explain who you are. But the best part is that you can choose what to share and how to share it. Students should take enough time to think about who might be reading your essay and how it will express your background. College admission essay provide you a chance to share your goals, personalities, lesson learned and life experience. The purpose of writing admission essay is not to write the summary of your life experience.

No more criticizing aa: "The Resilience of Alcoholics Anonymous" by Bill White and Ernie Kurtz

The Resilience of Alcoholics Anonymous
Threats faced by AA, including the intensity and endurance of polemical assaults on AA, raise the question of how AA survived these challenges to become such a dominant cultural force.

Is this a good time to start up "The Daily Bitch" again?

The idea being to keep all the daily bitching on one thread - anyone not interested can just not read it. Tried it a couple of years ago and it was a laugh. I know one of our more control-freakish members objected to the name - so what?. To bitch is using the word as a verb rather than a noun - completely different meaning.

I find it a bit disconcerting that new members are being frightened off by the actions of those more used to the goings-on on here. This is just an attempt to, maybe, insulate the off-topic moaning.

It will either work or it won't. It's up to you.

"The Buddhist Punk Reforming Drug Rehab" And you’re likely to see stickers that read, “No Gods, No Masters.”

The Buddhist Punk Reforming Drug Rehab

Tech + Health 06.16.14
Stephen Krcmar

Noah Levine is a heavily tattooed , formerly incarcerated addict. Now sober, he’s trying to reform drug rehab through Buddhism and punk music.

Scientific American article, "How the Brain Makes and Breaks Habits"

The June, 2014 issue of Scientific American caught my attention as the cover reads: The Neuroscience of Habits: how they form and why they are so hard to change.

A snippet from

What is wrong with US?

JR has a problem with these individuals: Mark, llse, massive, AntiDenial, Lovinglife52, LFOD, Jim Battle

JR has a problem with the following websites: Stinkin’ Thinkin’, Leaving AA, RecoveringfromRecovery, Expaa, NA Daytona

Who has the problem..?


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