Do Smart Recovery members have to read the Orange Papers in secret?

Yes, they are not allowed to criticise the stepper cult or read Anti Stepper Cult literature
11% (1 vote)
No
89% (8 votes)
Total votes: 9

Songs for Steppers

Here is a link where you can listen without the crowd noise:

https://soundcloud.com/minus-mary/st-boniface

The 13th Step - Predators in Alcoholics Anonymous (AA)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8guHRLtqPlU
Published on Jan 21, 2015
This is about how 3 women were harmed by predatory men in AA. Two were children ages 4 and 5 and one women was targeted by a sexual predator in Ohio.

Is Christianity based on Frank buchmans version of faith and sin?

Yes, Christianity and ALL other religions are based on Buchmans beliefs
25% (1 vote)
No, Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ, but to read the OPF you would be forgiven for believing otherwise
75% (3 votes)
Total votes: 4

Is the OPF now a forum just for atheits?

Yes, only atheists are now allowed to post on the OPF, belivers do so, at their own risk
50% (2 votes)
No, the OPF is still a forum ALL victims of the stepper cult, irrespective of their personal beliefs
50% (2 votes)
Total votes: 4

"Thursday's Speaker" Comedy / Drama film released 28 June 2013 (USA) about an Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) speaker / AA super star by Gary Hebert and Uglystick Films

Rodrigo owns this room. He's the best twelve-step speaker in town, maybe in the state. He inspires people. He helps people. Unfortunately everything he says is a lie. He says he's been sober for fifteen years but he was drunk last night. He was drunk the night before. He maintains the lie, though, because this is his family. His friends are here. The girls love him here.
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Which of the following "Anti-AA" main stream sites currently promote "faith" and "sin" based Frank Buchman style solutions to substance misuse issues?

http://nadaytona.org/
100% (1 vote)
http://leavingaa.com/
0% (0 votes)
https://stop13stepinaa.wordpress.com/
0% (0 votes)
http://expaa.org/
0% (0 votes)
http://recoveringfromrecovery.com
0% (0 votes)
http://stinkin-thinkin.com (currently off line)
0% (0 votes)
http://orange-papers.org
0% (0 votes)
http://orange-papers.org/forum
0% (0 votes)
Other -please link to the site and explain why you believe it is considered an"Anti-AA" site
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 1

Is the OPF the voice of the silent majority of stepper cult victims?

Yes, most believe as the OPF gang dictate to them to believe
0% (0 votes)
No, its just the beliefs of a few resident atheists
100% (1 vote)
Total votes: 1

Out with the Old

I haven't been on this forum in several months because of all the trolls, the in-fighting, the bible thumping, and bullshit. It is a distraction and compromises the quality of this forum. The forum should be a place where an individual harmed by AA could come to vent, to learn, and to heal. There are people here that care deeply and wish to help those in distress. There are others who come to instigate friction and bring down the quality and credibility of this forum.

Failed War on Drugs caused by prohibition w/ AA and NA participation

Published on Jan 10, 2015
Violent Billion-dollar cartels, mass incarceration, a public health nightmare, welcome to the global disaster of the 44 year old, trillion dollar War on Drugs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-KDDuNwDEw

Sunflowerx41

I don’t remember if it was summer or winter. I couldn’t tell you what time of day it was. There are many specifics of that encounter that I find difficult to recall.

YEAR OF THE SHEEP

So 2015 is officially the year of the sheep according to the Chinese calendar.
So the way I see it, that doesn’t mean it’s the year that the sheep take over. I mean, how could they really? They’re sheep after all!
No, I say we do everything we can in our “power” (Yes we have power as we are NOT powerless-lol) to help liberate the Sheep(le) of the rooms.

Forum: Slow but Steady

Topics & posts have slowed up a little but looky, no trolls, no bloody preacher pushing faith healing & not an implosion in sight, maybe peace 'll reign on the forum? Hope it lasts!!!!!

We ALL now know Smart does NOT allow criticism of the stepper cult, but does it allow any praise of this cult at its meetings?

Yes, particullally if the Smart facilitator and most of the meeting members ARE steppers
100% (3 votes)
No, Smart is totally scientific and unbiased and does not allow either critisism or praise of the stepper cult....LOL
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 3

Works Publishing Stockholder Reports

More documents from Works Publishing, 6/30/1941, regarding profits, assets, shareholders, and future expectations for the Alcoholics Anonymous text.

Interesting findings:

And the winner is......Best Stepper Cult enabler

Smart Recovery
100% (1 vote)
Moderation Management
0% (0 votes)
SOME posters on the OPF
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 1

Greetings on our Tenth Christmas ~from Bill

I typed out just a few lines from this little gem; a letter from Bill Wilson to "All All Members".

There isn't anything written about alcoholism recovery or sobriety, like in the steps (or spoken of at meetings) for that matter. The religious overtones are overwhelmingly present, as usual for AA and Billy.

1931Prescott Bush/George Walker:3rdEugenicsConference

Research shows that today all Drug Companies still researching EUGENICS/mapping the DNA for source of all criminal behavours/mental disorders.3rdConference1931USA decision-14 million USA should be sterilized. 1+1 =George Walker Bush.Suprise??? Funding for this program comes fromFord/Rockerfeller/Stanford Oil/

2015...

Wishing a happy, safe, healthy new year to all the OPF members... and especially Mr. Orange!!

Don't Drink, do as you please!

I am still kicking. Been sober over 44 years. I am over 82 years young. I don.t drink, and I do as I please! Soberman

Castraters Anonymous/Humour required

Ever since my traumatic experinces in dtuhh war,it's been horrible.I is drink a few wid dtuhh guys.Dthen I'd ahve to use dtuhh John.I'dcarry a newspaper so I'd not look at dtuhh guys at dtuh Urinals.Dthen jump into a stall.OMG the horror.Most times I'd ahve to go outside and use the wall behind dtuhh bar.But thanks to goddd an dtis 12 shtep pogram- today life's changed.I'd be reaching for my belt but dtuhh knife was not there,Now I can use a public toilet w/o wanting to CASTRATE all dtuh guys what's using dtuhh urinals.today I got a life dthat I neer imagined.I just got my one YEAR CHIP it woi

Clarification on AA’s benignity

An exacting critique on the AA religious movement and its damaging practices in the indoctrination of the newcomer. http://academicmisconceptionsofaainoz.weebly.com/ The essay left me with the impression that this religious movement like it forerunner the Oxford Group is very adept at preying upon the weak and damaged individuals to gain new coverts to its cause who in turn are taught to carry its message to others and so on.

Ridiculous Sheeple Logic

So as is my way, I was debating certain points of the AA nonsense with someone who tried to deny my point that AA has no exit plan and it's premise necessitates recovering for life as it's best case outcome. He made a point of saying that the "Big Book" uses the word "recovered" in several places....So what?

More traction in mainstream media.

Good Morning Americal calls out AA broken logic on eating garbage.

I can not find it online, but just saw it on tv a segment called 'second addictions', they call out the broken logic in AA literature which encourages eating garbage food to 'curb impulse'.

Maybe Jr can find it online and post it here.

And finally, the Emma Honorable Mentions

An Emma Honorable Mention Award for Best Guest Appearance goes to the tag team Mark & Ilse. They are wonderful professional writers and I wish them the best. Buy Ilse's book.

An Emma Honorable Mention Award for maintaining the Best Sense of Humor goes naturally to flannigan. Good job and keep comin' back!

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