Starting to wonder what is worse, the OPF, or an open discussion meeting of AA. Bashing AA was fun for some time, and healthy for my recovery from recovery. Orange, wherever you are, thank you for the main page and the letters that you posted on this. Although I did not always see things eye to eye with you, I always had a lot of respect for you, your intelligence, and the sincere good intentions that you had when starting this forum. It seems like no good deed goes unpunished.