The Science Behind Faith Healing

Yet another scientific study on the healing power of faith:

http://www.apa.org/monitor/2015/04/cover-placebos.aspx

Some interesting quotes form the article for those of you who don't want to read the whole thing:

"Like cognitive therapies..... placebos tap into people's beliefs that there's hope and that they can get better".

Embrace life, not AA's guilt trip and program of lies

Chapter 3 Pp25 By Rolf Ankermann Ok, now that we've reached a stage of acceptance and have "admitted" to ourselves that we need to address our condition, what's the next step? As I stated in the forward, pretty much all roads, at least as suggested by the rehabilitation and recov­ery community, will lead one to AA. One of AA's biggest lies that it preaches is the idea, that as an alcoholic, your only shot at salvation is to become a lifelong member of its organization.

Alcoholism is not a life sentence!

Chapter 2 Pp18 By Rolf Ankermann The old adage of once an alcoholic always an alcoholic is utter nonsense. You can be cured, yes I said cured, of any addiction! That is not to say that you can ever use alcohol or any drug to which you were once addicted ever again without the almost definite result of becoming re-addicted. Once you pick up again it is almost guaranteed that you will be off and running towards oblivion and destruction. What you can do is put your alcoholism or addiction into remission.

Alcoholism is not a life sentence!

Chapter 2 Pp18 By Rolf Ankerman The old adage of once an alcoholic always an alcoholic is utter nonsense. You can be cured, yes I said cured, of any addiction! That is not to say that you can ever use alcohol or any drug to which you were once addicted ever again without the almost definite result of becoming re-addicted. Once you pick up again it is almost guaranteed that you will be off and running towards oblivion and destruction. What you can do is put your alcoholism or addiction into remission.

Which One Would You Choose?

The Rivalry "Between Freedom to Recovery" or "The 12 Step Program of Recovery". Soberman

What is "using"?

Janus claims that taking a prescription, MAT such as Suboxone, is USING. In response, I said that I didn't think it was. That has led me to try to establish what using is. Could it be that we disagree because we define "using" differently?

You need to overcome denial to reach acceptance

1. If we can agree that acceptance is the first step on the road to recovery the next logical question is how do we get there? In Elisabeth Kubler's book, On death and dying, she identifies five stages of grief, starting with denial and ending in ac­ceptance, that one goes through when experiencing a terrible loss. 2. In the case of an alcoholic or addict, the loss of their coping mechanism, be it the bottle or drug of choice, is a very traumatic experience. In many cases they have alienated Just about everyone in their life and their abused substance is the only friend they have left.

To Rolf Ankermann from Soberman

I have copyed 4 topics from your book "The Freedom to Recover. It seem like we are getting some real good input. I would like to continue to take some more topics. Do you object? I also thinkthat those who are reading them are getting some real good information on alcoholism. I am suggesting to those who read my post, buy the book. The Book is the best that I have found in my 45 years on sobriety. Freedom To Recover, my what a beautiful topic. Soberman

You Are Not Powerless to Recover?

by Rolf Ankermann from his book Freedom to Recover. Step one of Alcoholics Anonymous states that "We admitted we were powerless over alcohol-that our lives had become unmanageable." Sober-man: When and what is AA saying? Rolf: I'll agree that we managed to make our lives and of those around us miserable by our destructive and-self­ish behavior. At the end of the day, however, the ONLY one who has the power to overcome such an affliction is the individual who suffers from it. The statement itself shifts blame and responsibility away from the individual and puts it somewhere else.

AA's Obsession with time ?

The Freedom to Recover by Rolf Ankermann. 1. One way in which AA reinforces this idea of eternal day to day sobriety is through its obsession of acknowledging and celebrating its members' length of sobriety. 2. I loved to go to AA meetings and when I was called to talk, I loved to inform the group that I have been sober ove 45 years. 3. Cute little coins are given for "new or just coming back", 1 month sober, 2 months, 1 year, 4 years, etc. 4. It never ends. Are we children that need to get our gold star for doing a good job? Sober man: {Yes, Yes, Yes, that s me.}

Let us discuss Bill Wilson

Let us discuss Bill Wilson By "Rolf Ankermann" in his book Freedom to Recover 1. Bill Wilson, AA's co-founder and undisputed leader, found God and that was his miracle cure'. 2. He was in the hospital go­ing through the DT's (delirium tremens) while at the same time being treated with the hallucinogenic herb belladonna and a host of barbiturates. 3. It was at this time that Bill claimed to have experienced a God inspired religious conversion. 4. He begged God to show himself and God presumably obliged by appearing as a bright white light.

The Freedom to Recovery: An evolutionary and realistic guide to overcoming Alcoholism, or is it?

The Freedom to Recovery: An evolutionary and realistic guide to overcoming Alcoholism, or is it? Written by: Rolf Ankermann. 1. The freedom to recover does not offer a "program" for sobriety but rather, suggests a complete reversal of how alcohol addiction should be both viewed and addressed. 2. For far too long, alcoholism has been seen as a "disease" in which those afflicted have absolutely no personal control over their plight.

Its alive....Its alive...Its alive

as many can recall when the Frankenstein monster, having had a brain transplant, moved with all the lightning and shit......

I post this study because I received it in my email....you will notice....that the findings were not based on MRI, Brain Scan or any other such nonsense that you see with those that tout the Brain Disease Model showing all these studies....

http://www.neurology.org/content/early/2015/07/15/WNL.0000000000001834

Stepper Cult Tip

A pile of dog muck makes an ideal 'Higher Power' for ANY aspiring Stepper Cult Guru.......they all talk a load of crap anyway

Mindfullness or how I learned something......you should know

Could be Chapter 4

Agent Orange has an online book that should serve as a first order reference for anyone wanting to understand what is wrong with AA and how one person views resolution.

Stepper Cult Tip

'Big Ben' makes an ideal 'Higher Power' for aspiring English Stepper Cult Guru's. But don't admit to Big Ben, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs, on the hour when Big Ben chimes otherwise your Sponsor will not be able to hear your (imagined) character defects and reveal them to members of your 'Home Group' behind your back

Can Leprechauns seen in DT’s actually speak English?

No, Leprechauns only speak Gaelic
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Course they can speak English....they wouldn't be 'Higher Powers' if they couldn't speak English would they?
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They would be some sort of 'not so higher power' that couldn't remove shortcomings or stop you drinking and whatnot
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It dosent reallly matter, Leprechauns are just fairy tales, the same as the that 12 step nonsense
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Total votes: 1

Stepper Cult Tip

A Leprechaun makes an ideal 'Higher Power' for aspiring Irish Stepper Cult Gurus.........especially if they are going through DT's and see things that aren't really there

Addiction and Genes

"Genetics are thought to play a huge role in the development of alcohol use disorders - the genetic contribution to these conditions could be as high as 60%".

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/fly-study-to-help-treat-addiction-342...

Do we choose our genes? If our genes play such a prominent part in creating addiction, is the label 'disease' (in the sense of a genetically inherited disease rather than a disease you contract such as malaria) not valid?

There is help for you sinners!!!! Repent says Mora/Mindless

He does say some odd things, doesn't he?

William Mora | 9/23/2014 - 1:26pm .

I Miss This Forum

Simply put, I miss this forum. I was reading a few articles online today, mostly that had to do with Prohibition today/the ongoing Drug War, etc. I thought about posting one here so there would be more OPF content. But then decided against it. I really wanted my point to be this: I feel sad that people have left this forum. I actually miss them. I miss Gunthar, Cause, Anti Denial (as much as I was rotton to her!) and others, too. ...I know some still are on here a bit, but.. I am sure you understand what I mean.

Visiting Blog-Spontaneous this you asshole

So why are we outspoken about the AA's lack of efficacy, disempowering "suggestions" and dogmatic rituals, etc....? Because it fucks people up and wearing blinders and saying and doing nothing when you know how evil it is, is just wrong, That's Why..... But then you have posers out there that pretend to be AA critical but who are really secretly just the opposite. Sometimes though, if you listen to or read between their lines, you see that they are full of shit.

Dave Mustaine

So I was surfing Wikipedia today and came across this quote. It struck me because this type of magical thinking epitomizes the stepper mindset:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Mustaine

Addiction is a Disease like many other

Chronic Diseases......and that is the message you will find if you go to this website....supposedly to be informed....about Addiction...

http://archives.drugabuse.gov/about/welcome/aboutdrugabuse/chronicdisease/

"Addiction is a chronic disease similar to other chronic diseases such as type II diabetes, cancer, and cardiovascular disease."

Yearly distribution and frequency of Alcoholic/addict major movies from IBDm database

Yearly frequency and distribution of Alcoholics/Addict movies from IMDB http://www.imdb.com/list/ls050657088/ Why is there a difference in movies per year? Do the dates have the anything to do with it?
1945 - *
1948 - *
1949 - **
1952 - *
1955 - **
1956 - *
1957 - *
1958 - ***
1963 - *
1966 - *
1969 - *
1970 - **
1971 - *
1973 - ****
1981 - **
1984 - **
1987 - **
1988 - **
1989 - *
1991 - **

“Real Housewives of Beverly Hills,” star Kim Richards pleads "not guilty" and uses the US court sanctioned 52 Week AA get out of jail card!

Breaking News: Kim Richards Pleads NOT Guilty to Charges of Resisting Arrest and Battery

Posted on Jun 11 2015 - 4:36pm by Avigai

Breaking News — “Real Housewives of Beverly Hills,” star Kim Richards, 50, has pled NOT guilty to the three misdemeanor charges she’s facing after getting arrested on April 16 at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

Gunthar-Gate: Say "Goodnight" Gracie!

Thanks, Orange, for banning the Character Assassin who maligned numerous good people.

J.R. Harris!!!!

I totally can't believe this. This is so awesome. I clicked on Avo's link, and J.R. Harris is cited in a LAW REVIEW ARTICLE!!!!!!

http://cornelllawreview.org/files/2014/08/99CLR1185.pdf

See JR Harris, Murderpedia.org Highlights a Few of the Murderers in Alcoholics Anonymous—I Believe They Need a Few More Current Entries, ORANGE PAPERS (July 5, 2012, 9:13 PM), http://www.orange-papers.org/forum/node/1840.

Applying the Clergy Privilege to Certain AA Communications

THE RELIGION OF ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS (AA): APPLYING THE CLERGY PRIVILEGE TO CERTAIN AA COMMUNICATIONS by Ari Diaconis

http://cornelllawreview.org/files/2014/08/99CLR1185.pdf

Interesting examination of AA member relationships as it pertains to the law, and an argument suggesting that it receive the the same privileges as religious clergy.

The author received first prize from the Cornell Law Library "Robert Cantwell" competition for exemplary student research.

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