Perhaps the main reason I "hate" AA

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Submitted by Pennywise on Sun, 08/05/2012 - 19:54

"We seriously thought of rewriting the laws of the land, and having it declared that alcoholics are sick people." 12&12 pg 155

Sadly, I think the above is exactly what has been done.

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becket

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 22:41

DeConstructor, would you know a rational conversation if you tripped over one?

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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DeConstructor

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 22:22

to get Alkie Anon the help he needs.

Might I suggest they look into some type of intervention, using the Marchman Act or a 5150 to use the power of the court to attract not promote him to help. Maybe we could get danny to drag him to an intervention.

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alkieanon

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 22:27

"What would you do if I sang out of tune,
Would you stand up and walk out on me.
Lend me your ears and I'll sing you a song,
And I'll try not to sing out of key.
Oh I get by with a little help from my friends,
Mmm,I get high with a little help from my friends,
Mmm, I'm gonna try with a little help from my friends."

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JR Harris

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 22:39

If you can't get help with your delving back into childhood or using the "I'm rubber, you're glue" childish defenses of someone brainwashed by the cult of Alcoholics Anonymous on the Orange papers Forum, please get help somewhere. Alcoholics Anonymous members at your local Intergroup are waiting for your call talk to you into a $1000 a day rehab, credit cards and 2nd mortgages on your home are accepted to make you hit bottom following the Jellenik curve as quickly as possible. Have your loved ones contacted NAMI yet?

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

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alkieanon

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 23:03


JR Harris cries: "Baby talk ..."
Waah, waah, waah!

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becket

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 22:47

That "baby talk" ("A Little Help From My Friends") earned somebody a shitload of money in royalties: The Beatles? Joe Cocker? Michael Jackson? Somebody. Don't think I'd make too much fun of it if I were you.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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DeConstructor

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 22:49

having the balls to use a quote from Hitch while being an apologist for the AA faith.

Have you no shame?

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JR Harris

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 22:57

Bill Wilson, safely in his compound of Stepping Stones that he conned the widow and AA member Helen Griffith out of with the help of another AA member real estate agent Joan C. kept his mistress Helen Wynn 15 minutes from the marital home and employed by the Grapevine as an editor, despite the fact that the Grapevine looses money every year. Per Francis Hardigan, the secretary of Lois Wilson, Bill was planning on divorcing her and marrying Helen. Because of the "needs" to grow the fellowship, Helen was allowed to stay at the Grapevine and eventually given 10% of the royalties from every "Big Book" sold to the fellowship after the death of Bill Wilson.

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

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JR Harris

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 22:32

Alas, the 1936 "Big Book" diagnosis for alkieanon is a "Dry Drunk." Of course there is no DSM-IV -TR or even DSM-V diagnosis of it, but I think reverting to "baby talk" and the "I'm rubber, you're glue" rants of Alkienaon can be squeezed in there somewhere..... the "Higher Power" of your choosing in all of his posts on the Orange Papers Forum that can be use as proof.....

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

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alkieanon

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 22:40


JR Harris whines: "... can be squeezed in there somewhere ...."
See the orange? Gonna squeeze the cheeks and make some juice. LOL!

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becket

Tue, 08/07/2012 - 21:05

Why not start sending alkie funds for his recovery, in unmarked bills of denominations $50 and higher, and perhaps he will learn to sing your sour song. alkie, make sure DeConstructor has your PO Box number.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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alkieanon

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 06:47

Small Bills, Not Big Bills. LOL!

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becket

Sun, 08/05/2012 - 22:48

Why is "hate" in quotation marks, Pennywise?

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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Pennywise

Mon, 08/06/2012 - 05:55

Well Becket, hate can mean different things to different people in different contexts. When I say I hate the Chicago Bears, I'm talking about something fundementally different than when I say I hate the Ku Klux Klan. When I speak of AA, I mean something in beween the two. Plus, I don't hate every aspect of AA. There are (gasp) some aspects of AA that I think are OK and even beneficial. So it is much more complicated for me than simply saying I hate AA, hence the quotation marks.

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

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causeandeffect

Tue, 08/07/2012 - 19:29

And one can hate the team or hate the game without hating the players. That is, unless they are obnoxious. LOL!

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becket

Tue, 08/07/2012 - 21:06

Careful, little sister, you're coming dangerously close to demonstrating some sort of humanity.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

Vicky345uk

Mon, 08/06/2012 - 08:31

Why you on here also???? If it's so great why are you on a AA anti website??? Go and be with your own kind and be happy together....

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alkieanon

Tue, 08/07/2012 - 07:11

http://www.orange-papers.org/forum/comment/51595#comment-51595

Vicky345uk

Mon, 08/06/2012 - 08:40

If I throw a stick will you leave hunnie?????

Ink

Mon, 08/06/2012 - 11:31

This is where I have to reiterate that I'm not really sure who here is pro trolling or actually inept in some ways.

billybudd

Tue, 08/07/2012 - 20:21

Please rephrase. "Actually inept" is abundantly clear. By "pro trolling" do you mean pro(fessionally) trolling or in favor of trolling "hunnie" (whoever "hunnie" might be and/or whatever a "trolling 'hunnie'" might resemble). Much thanks.

Also, can't quite keep up with what amounts to trollery hereabouts. Please elucidate. Thanks again.

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alkieanon

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 06:49

Maybe the title should have been "Perhaps the main reason I "hate" Florida" is because of the Marchman Act.

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Pennywise

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 07:24

Why? The Marchman Act is but one example of what happens when Wilson's preachings are made law. I could give you many other examples of what happens when someone is designated legally or medically as having a substance abuse disorder.

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

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live_free_or_die

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 07:41

Sweetness.

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live_free_or_die

Wed, 08/08/2012 - 07:54

Some excellent reasons to hate AA

AA is a harmful program for many attendees. Harmful in that the "program" of AA is one based on negativity, instilling doubt, fear and playing on the human emotion and condition to attract and retain members

AANY, although having been made aware of the predatory behavior of some AA members, has made the decision to ignore the problem. This makes AANY, and the fellowship, immoral and a vile entity.

AA and the 12 steps, by way of the religious dogma and antiquated "program" is responsible for the deaths of some of its members by exacting a feeling of despair and hopelessness. In short, AA/12 steps kills some members. I have no doubt in my mind of this unfortunate reality.

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

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