Which groups do you think should be protected in the press from bad publicity? Please explain your answer.

The Church of Scientology
0% (0 votes)
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon)
0% (0 votes)
Alcoholics Anonymous (based out of the Interchurch Center)
0% (0 votes)
Unification Church of Sun Myung Moon (Moonies)
0% (0 votes)
The Catholic Church
0% (0 votes)
All of the above should be protected
0% (0 votes)
None of the above should be protected
89% (8 votes)
Other groups should be protected from bad press, write in your own choice
11% (1 vote)
Total votes: 9

Comments

JR Harris's picture

None of the above should be protected because if they are it would prevent problems from being identified and fixed. If they are doing nothing wrong they should not need to be protected from bad press.

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

alkieanon's picture

Orange Papers Forum. LOL!

NoAAUK's picture

AA have been protected from bad publicity at every opportunity and by almost every organisation (except the HAMS Network) and that includes within SMART Recovery and (to a lesser extent) MM.

What does hiding the truth about steppism achieve?.....other than more predatory activity and suicides. It certainly does NOT help the Alcohol Problem, just look around you.

Can anybody give me ONE good reason why this lying scaremongering death cult should be protected from bad publicity?

Why is exposing the truth about AA called "AA bashing" and considered a negative activity, even in alternatives such as SMART and MM? Is everbody scared of this disgusting cult?

And if so.....why?

......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11

becket's picture

"What does hiding the truth about steppism achieve?"

What does fabricating falsehoods about AA and exaggerating the purported dangers of every AA environment achieve?

Only

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

NoAAUK's picture

Stepper

Absolutely NO NEED to fabricate falsehoods about your cults . The truth about steppism is so deeply depraved EVIL we'd need to have as sick a minds as Wilson and the deviant doctor to make up what we claim

And when the truth is finally accepted by the powers that be and the stepper criminal deviants are finally charged with the multiple abuses they have committed against the bemused and vulnerable, with the blessings of the General Public and in the name of God, for years................Well THIS SCANDAL is going to seriously dwarf that of the paedophile catholic priests, which caused such an outcry.

AA has got to be the biggest collection of sick deviants in the so called "developed" western world at this present time.

Maybe people like you, publically denying these abuses (which EVERYBODY on this forum KNOWS go on regularly in the 'rooms' and are the real reason for the existence of this demonic cult) really ought to watch what they blog.....

you may also be called to account one day as accessories to this sick crime against humanity that is called steppism

......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11

live_free_or_die's picture

How many of these organizations ask the media DIRECTLY to keep stories and members names out of the press?

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

NoAAUK's picture

Good point Live free

......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11

live_free_or_die's picture

"Caroline (not her real name), 39, took four years to break away from AA and looks back with loathing at what she now sees as its self-serving and coercive methods. "I had doubts from the start but I carried on because, at the time, I had very low self-esteem and no confidence. AA only works if you're prepared to take it on as a religion. I should know, I was brought up a Jehovah's Witness until I was 18 and the similarities are astounding."

"Indeed some of the AA steps make no bones about this. Step Two talks of believing "in a power greater than ourselves", three of turning "our lives and wills over to the care of God" albeit "as we understand him", while 11 encourages prayer and meditation. This aspect of AA rhetoric is supposed to be negotiable nowadays, but Caroline disagrees: "As with any religion, you have to play by their rules or you're out. They have a Big Book which is their equivalent of the Bible. Your sponsor encourages you to pray and refers you to the Big Book at times of stress. I'd done all that sort of stuff before with the Jehovah's Witnesses. It's about control, and AA controls you by telling you that alcoholism is for life; they offer no hope of recovery. Members feed off each other in a very unhealthy way; it's like a dating agency. Opposition is not encouraged; I once made the mistake of mentioning to another member that I was in contact with a woman who had dropped out. He was very critical that I would still speak to someone who had `fallen away'. I went for it all at first. I wanted friends and I wanted to be liked but now I've detached. It's sold to you as if you're part of a special order. You're not. You just can't have a drink. I've been emotionally damaged by their mind games to keep you a member, to keep you needing them. It's a bullying environment."

"David O, 43, went to AA for eight years on and off before leaving to cure himself through therapy. He agrees: "I did an undercover story about the Moonies for a local radio station once and the approach is the same. AA is bondage of another form. It is evangelical and rabid in outlook. It doesn't empower or encourage independence."

excerpts from the English paper The Independent.

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

alkieanon's picture

live_free_or_die's picture

it is around here somewhere.

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

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