Chick-fil-A accused of making fake accounts to protect Market Share - Is the 12 Step Industry far behind?- July 26, 2012

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Submitted by JR Harris on Thu, 07/26/2012 - 12:27

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Recovery Industry members are increasingly taking to the internet in attempts to derail and protect the revenue stream that has been built by the cults that Bill Wilson built. Chick-fil-A, an outwardly Spiritual and Religious company has been accused of the same thing. The recovery Industry members that attempt to do this are classified as:

2. Special Pleader Stepper – The hidden agenda, 2nd most dangerous
They attend AA meetings because they have a stake in making sure that AA survives. They go, not to help the group to solve the problem of Alcoholism, but to protect their interests. Discussion is a platform from which they can air their rights and wishes. They are there to protect special interests (such as a Sober House or Rehab) and are willing to fight for a larger flow of customers. Often teams up with the Aggressive Stepper. (source: http://orange-papers.org/forum/node/189 )

Chick-fil-A has been discussed before on the Orange Papers because it has been identified as a company with a high "Spiritual Capital" score and it was compared to AA, see "The Spiritual Capital of Alcoholics Anonymous" http://orange-papers.org/forum/node/444 . If these allegations are true, both Chick-fil-A and Alcoholics Anonymous have just lost their standings in "Spiritual Capital."

Did Chick-fil-A Pretend to Be a Teenage Girl on Facebook?

by Casey Chan

Chick-fil-A, home of chicken-loving bigots, is in the middle of a PR nightmare. After Chick-fil-A's COO admitted to being anti-gay, the Jim Henson Company (bless their heart) pulled their toys from Chick-fil-A's kids meals. Only Chick-fil-A claimed the toys were pulled because of a "possible safety issue". That, of course, is a complete lie. A lie that the company may be propagating with fake Facebook accounts of Chick-fil-a sympathists.

Yep, Chick-fil-A is still stuck in its own reality and is doubling down on its lie. Instead of owning up to the fact that The Jim Henson Company stopped doing business with them because they're overrun with bigots, the chicken sandwich company appears to have made fake Facebook accounts to defend its honor on the social network. How do we know the accounts are fake? Just check out this back and forth on Chick-fil-A's Facebook page between real, breathing people and "Abby Farle", a Facebook account that was made 8 hours ago by a chicken PR flack with a stock image of a teenage girl as her profile

It's a dirty, awful trick that is completely embarrassing and just shows how sleazy a company backed up against a wall can be. Especially a company that doesn't believe in treating all humans equally. Of course, there's a chance that this could all be a stunt to shame Chick-fil-A—or an overzealous supporter—but that company hardly needs more shaming. Chick-fil-A is being rightfully pummeled to the ground by anyone who believes in equality, its delicious chicken sandwiches be damned. [Happy Place]

Update: Chick-fil-A has denied that it has created fake Facebook accounts to defend itself. In a statement to BuzzFeed, spokeswoman Tiffany Greenway said:

"We have seen this and it is not true. Chick-Fil-A has not created a separate or a false Facebook account. We don't know who created it."

Read more: http://gizmodo.com/5928926/chick+fil+a-got-caught-pretending-to-be-a-fak...

When looking for the "similarities, not the differences" see: "The Spiritual Foundation of Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) and the Hazelden Foundation Connection" http://www.orange-papers.org/forum/node/1447

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Orange

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:20

That's quite a story. Thanks for that.

That does sound similar to A.A. in several ways. There are the same fake "observers" who post on the Internet to promote the company, and the same organized campaign of disinformation.

And the same pretense of goodness and spirituality, when in fact they are covering up for grossly dishonest and criminal behavior.

This should be interesting.

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Orange

Thu, 07/26/2012 - 14:48

Speaking of fake accounts on Facebook and forums, it seems to be a common corporate practice now. When I was active on dpreview.com, a forum about digital photography, the Olympus SLR forum was loaded with enthusiastic people who praised Olympus cameras as the best in the world. Of course some of them were just "fanboys" — nutcases who worshipped at the Temple of Mount Olympus — but some of them were pretty obviously paid shills and salesmen who spent all day long in front of their computers posting praise of Olympus cameras and viciously attacking anyone who dared to say one negative thing about an Olympus camera.

The funny thing is, as soon as Olympus discontinued their line of DSLR cameras because of very poor sales, all of those enthusiastic lovers of Olympus cameras just disappeared.

I guess they had to go work for somebody else to get a paycheck for posting messages.

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JR Harris

Sun, 07/29/2012 - 08:54

Christine Quinn Wants Chick-fil-A Kicked Out of New York City

Connor Simpson 4,171 Views Jul 28, 2012

Chick-fil-A is the most talked about restaurant in America right now, if you only count politicians. New York City Councillor Christine Quinn has gone a step further than saying "we don't want you here." Quinn's written a letter and started a petition asking Chick-fil-A be kicked out of New York.

Mayor Bloomberg said it wouldn't be appropriate for the government "to look at somebody's political views and decide whether or not they can live in the city, or operate a business in the city, or work for somebody in the city," on his Friday radio show. "Trampling on the freedom to marry whoever you want is exactly the same as trampling on your freedom to open a store," he said.

Earlier this week, Boston's Mayor wrote a letter to Chick-fil-A saying he'd block them from coming to his city because of the company's admission they have an anti-gay stance. (He's since admitted he couldn't do that.) A Chicago Alderman said he'd use his power to block them from getting the proper permits to build in Chicago. The Muppets stopped working with Chick-fil-A, too.

Today, Council Speaker Christine Quinn took it a step further and wrote a letter to NYU President John Sexton asking him to sever ties with the chain, effectively kicking them out of the city. The only Chick-fil-A in New York is located on the NYU campus. She also asked that, should he kick them out, the employees from the Chick-fil-A be given new jobs with whatever restaurant they get to replace it. She also started a petition demanding Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy apologize and change his position on gay marriage.

Law professors have pointed out that denying them the right to build within their city violates their First Amendment right, but Quinn's request is different. NYU is a private university with a huge population of gay students. It might be easier (and legal) for them to get out of their contract, or simply not renew it once their current deal is up, than a government body not allowing them to build.

Source: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/07/christine-quinn-wants-ch...

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

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Tue, 07/31/2012 - 00:06

Spiritual Chick-Fil-A who tried to capitalize on the spiritual aspects of eating dead chickens appear to have passed the line and their version of Spirituality is not being welcomed in more and more places. Is the spirituality of Alcoholics Anonymous devised by the necromancy of an atropa belladonna and LSD fueled Bill Wilson far behind?

Chick-fil-A and free speech

By Marc J. Randazza, Special to CNN
updated 6:00 PM EDT, Mon July 30, 2012

Editor's note: Marc J. Randazza is a Las Vegas-based First Amendment attorney. He is licensed to practice in Arizona, California, Florida, Massachusetts and Nevada. He is the editor of the law blog, The Legal Satyricon.

(CNN) -- Dan Cathy, the CEO of Chick-fil-A, proudly proclaimed his opposition to marriage equality and drew flak from politicians and citizens nationwide, who said Cathy's position made the chain unwelcome on their turf. Some of the condemnation crossed the line, offending the First Amendment. Some did not. Many don't understand where the line is, and now a population already sharply divided over same-sex marriage is collectively less informed about the First Amendment.

The First Amendment protects you from government action suppressing your right to free speech. It does not protect you from private individuals' negative reaction to your speech. As an extreme example: In my younger and more impulsive days, I punched out a guy who offended my then-girlfriend (now wife). He said he was exercising his First Amendment rights. I agreed and told him that I would defend him if the government messed with him, but the First Amendment didn't protect him from a private punch. I broke a few laws that day, but I didn't violate the First Amendment.

Similarly, the First Amendment does not protect you from criticism. Sarah Palin infamously took us all back a few steps by ignorantly criticizing the media for its negative commenting on her views. She said, "I don't know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media." This statement is utterly wrong. The First Amendment does not protect you from scrutiny or criticism by the media or others.

Christian groups allege threats to religious freedom in anti-Chick-fil-A campaigns

Therefore, those claiming that the private calls to boycott Chick-fil-A have any First Amendment implications are wrong. Cathy put his thoughts into the marketplace of ideas, where they may be bought or rejected. He has no First Amendment right to our approval, or to our money for his sandwiches.

But can cities use zoning to combat unpopular speech?

Unfortunately, when we chip away at the First Amendment, unpleasant unintended consequences are not far behind. In Barnes v. Glen Theatre Inc., the Supreme Court allowed municipalities to use zoning to regulate strip clubs and adult bookstores to combat their "adverse secondary effects."......

Read the entire story at: http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/30/opinion/randazza-first-amendment/index.htm...

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.