A special thanks... and goodbye

Submitted by disclosure on Sun, 08/19/2012 - 08:57

A special thanks... and goodbye

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live_free_or_die

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:02

Re: The Pacific Group.
http://health.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/BBS_Open_Discussion/message/3779

Last bit on Clancy.

12 Step Circuit Speaker Clancy I.

You've heard all the rumors, now hear the facts as Clancy I. goes one-
on-one with William Attebery. If you have been in a 12 step program
for any length of time then you no doubt have heard a Clancy story.
It probably was true, check out this interview for some, "dare we
say" controversial enlightenment.

Director of the Midnight Mission and founder of the Pacific Group
Clancy I. lays to rest any thoughts or cares as to what others think
about his rigid stance on how a 12 step program ought to be run. He
lives up to his billing as a contoversial and out spoken member.
Whether it is his intolerance of anti-depressants or his belief that
a clean face hides no facades, Clancy will say something to stir the
pot. Join us as we embark on an interview that promises to be both
compelling and audacious

Medications are not tolerated in the Pacific Group?

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http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

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Clara

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:08

Not true, LFOD. Clancy himself takes meds that are perscribed for him. People that suggest otherwise are not voicing personal opinion, not that of AA.

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

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Pennywise

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:16

Don't distort the truth, Clara. While Clancy might take blood pressure meds, it is well understood that his anti med stance refers to PSYCHOTROPIC drugs. It is dishonest to say otherwise.

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

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Conan

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:17

Everyone but you seems to know Clancy's position on meds. Keep your head in the sand long enough and the boot in the butt is sure to come. Easy target too...lol

Danny is currently "Rachel" - watch out folks, he's learned how to use a spell checker...lol

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Pennywise

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:20

Clara seems to be arguing that because Clancy takes blood pressure medicine (or the like), he is not anti med. Her position misses the point entirely, since within the context of this discussion we are talking about anti-depressants and other psychotropic drugs.

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

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Conan

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:26

That said :- " I got the IP addresses for the regulars on this forum from the bureau when investigating the emails.", and then refuses to confirm or deny that it is true? Bit of an integrity problem there, but we all knew that really all along...lol

Danny is currently "Rachel" - watch out folks, he's learned how to use a spell checker...lol

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LisaMarie

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:42

No Penny, within the contents of this discussion YOU are talking about anti-depressants and psychotropic drugs.
BTW, do you have evidence where Clancy has stated his aversion to anti-depressants and psychotropic drugs. That AA members should not take them. I am talking about 2012 not 1947.
I hope you can deliver or you will be the one who is being dishonest.

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Clara

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:53

AA's position is if it is perscribed for you, fine.

There are many people who have experienced less need for various drugs for mental or emotional health once they've given up the booze and the zany booze life. I know people that were diagnosed as Bipolar and took the appropriate meds for years but then went off of them to no ill effect. What does that mean? Could it be that they were possibly misdiagnosed in the first place? But then, someone in the rooms hears this, says to themselves that they don't need those stinkin' meds because of someone else's story and goes off of them. Was this AA's position on meds? Or a person's personal experience that someone that doesn't really want to take those med is tailoring to themselves?

I am making the distinction because of DeCon oft posted position that AA gives a damn if you take insulin, blood pressure meds, viagra or birth control pills. AA doesn't care what you take if it has been perscribed for you by a legitimate practitioner.

Clancy does take meds appropriate for his health concerns. I have heard on speak he gave to a medical convention and he did not speak against using medications.

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

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Conan

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 11:01

This is what is really being pushed in AA

Alcohol In Solid Form http://bigbookrecovery.com/now_that.html#solid_alcohol
........Prescribed mood-altering drugs? Drugs that are mood altering (eg [sic] "antidepressants") are often prescribed for the symptoms of the alcoholism. This is true even when alcoholism is not named by the doctor as the condition for which he or she is prescribing the drugs; for example, many of us are diagnosed as having a variety different sorts of psychoses and types of depression, which turn out to be the symptoms of alcoholism … ... If they are prescribed for the symptoms of alcoholism, then they are to be considered as alcohol in solid form: we must be willing to come off these ‘chemical mood-changers’ … …We ask the doctor: ‘Would it be alright if I came off the drugs if I go to lots of AA meetings?’… … ... It is very important that if the programme is to be a substitute for these drugs then we really must follow all the suggestions of the programme.”

Danny is currently "Rachel" - watch out folks, he's learned how to use a spell checker...lol

Vicky345uk

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 12:10

They are practicing without a fucking licence and should be in jail.

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JR Harris

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 11:02

You have no right to explain to anyone what the "literature"of the con man Bill Wilson stolen and cut and pasted in his "book of shadows" means. It is garbage and should forbidden to be chanted in church basements where it is corrupting the congregation and causing Spiritual abuse from the criminals recruited from jails and prisons.

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

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Clara

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 11:06

anything.

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

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avogadno

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:17

I thought you might appreciate this website Clara:

http://recoveredalcoholic.blogspot.com/2012/08/staying-useful-means-bein...

According to Danny S. (not to be confused with Danny B.):

"The solution lies above intellect-within spiritual awakening and continued conscious contact with God, something doctors and professionals are not equipped to deliver."

"Being an ardent 12 stepper equipped with prayer and meditation, has its benefits here - just like anywhere else where human error causes problems."

"Anger is not normal for human beings. It is evidence of great inner conflict and spiritual illness."

"Emotional entanglements such as those brought on by resentments, disturb the human psyche and interrupt God consciousness."

--Perhaps people just want to quit drinking and not get lectured by a religious fanatic in AA. That's his job ya know. Helping recovering alcoholics in AA. Take what you want and leave the rest. Too bad listening to this day in and out seeps in.

Pro Empowerment!
Truth about AA: http://orange-papers.org/menu1.html
Expose AA: http://www.expaa.org/

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Clara

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:38

I don't think it is dishonest, Pen and Con. DeCon is on another site, saying that AA eschews any meds, including such things as insulin, birth control pills, and blood pressure meds. I don't believe that to be true. I think that AA stance is on recreational drugs or drugs not perscribed for you. Psychotropics are probably not frivolous.

Clancy is in his 80s. It's probably not a suprise that he takes something, and my experience was that he takes meds that need to be take with food. Therefore, his room needed to have a fridge for his cheese, crackrs, margarine and orange juice.

I don't know what his position is, Con. C&E never got back with me as to the results of her email/call to him.

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

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Conan

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:43

You still will not say whether, when you said " I got the IP addresses for the regulars on this forum from the bureau when investigating the emails.", you were lying or not. Were you lying? Yes or No?

Danny is currently "Rachel" - watch out folks, he's learned how to use a spell checker...lol

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Pennywise

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:47

Well, I have never heard Clancy eschew insulin, birth control pills, blood pressure meds, or anything of the like.

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

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LisaMarie

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 11:04

Hard for you to get honest isn't it. Pride really gets in the way.
Where is your proof, Penny!! Quit, two stepping.

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JR Harris

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:52

Getting awful familiar with the grandfather of Midtown aren't you? I see you have taken down your AA loophole disclaimer on your tag line. Rigorous honesty starting to set in?

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

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Clara

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:55

LOL! Just another way to mislead. I was never in his room. I did make the arrangements per his request.

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

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JR Harris

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 11:10

Did you go over Clancy's 7 questions while you were there?

1. In looking back over your life – what memories are still painful, guilty, dirty?
2. In what ways do you consider yourself an inadequate person?
3. Who do you resent – and why? Be specific.
4. What do you conceive to be your defects of character – as you see them today?
5. What is the nature of the ongoing problems you have with people close to you – in human relations – what seems to always happen when you have these things that blow up?
6. In what way do you believe that A.A. can help you with any of these problems?
7. In what way do you believe that A.A. can begin to change things?

For more on how Clancy finds out the dirt on his disciples see "Are Clancy I's Seven Questions part of doing a 4th Step Sexual Inventory in AA? - "Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves." - http://orange-papers.org/forum/node/1492

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

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Clara

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 12:46

I was given it through the committee.

Actually, Clancy's 7 questions are great. I think every person should ask them of the sponsee when being asked to sponsor. It certainly can set the right stage. What if someone is coming to AA because s(he) thinks it will bring back a spouse? Or that you'll get off on a murder charge? I knew a woman that came to AA bcause she thought she would get off on all charges when she ran over two people in a black out and dragged the motorcycle a mile. Perhaps one of Clancy's 7 questions could have lowered her expectations. Now she hates AA because she got 4 years in a SC pen.

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

Vicky345uk

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 11:53

Your wrong Clara, I have seen first hand people on medication for anti depressants and there sponsor has told them to come off them and work the programme. I have witnessed this. Even a person who was epileptic was told come of there anti- convulsion drugs. That guy killed himself, and his sponsor was at his funeral and said " he died because he could not get the programme" Clara are you are it's AA you go to because everything you say does not sound like AA to me.

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Persephone In Exile

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 12:13

Vicky, you could show some people absolute proof of the medication stance and they'd never admit to it. You could show video logs of every interaction within 12 step groups that led directly to depression and suicide and some of these people would find every excuse in the book to exonerate xA. I never used to want to think that such one-sided thinking could exist, but I've just seen too much of it. Some, especially those here, won't see the forest for the trees and only hammer their dull points to exasperate others.

http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/

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Clara

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 12:21

Again, that would be a person's opinion, which often can differ from AA.

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

Vicky345uk

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 12:50

Clara its not an opinion it's absolute fact. It does go on, please wake up and open your eyes.

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Clara

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 13:28

My eyes ARE open. A person telling you to go off meds perscribed by a doctor is expressing a personal opinion, not the stance of AA.

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

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Persephone In Exile

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 15:09

Yep, what did I say? Uh huh, uh huh.

http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/

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Clara

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:08

I am glad that you too can read the literature, PIE. I have never disagreed that some people take that position, but it isn't the position of AA. I have a friend that became a buddhist and suddently eschewed any and all meds as being unnatural. I've never done the research but what does Buddah say?

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

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LisaMarie

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 12:39

Vicky, you are a liar and it is becoming very tiresome. You feel the need to exaggerate every story you write here.
STOP IT!!!

Vicky345uk

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 12:45

Lol psychopath Danny bennison.

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SandyB

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 12:46

Danny the douche starts in right away attacking a woman

Next he'll accuse me of being Wayne, then prat on about Wayne's atrocities

Then he'll abuse another woman, maybe a guy or two, ans so on, and so on, and .....

Vicky345uk

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 12:54

He tells me I exaggerate calls me a liar and then stalks me.

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SandyB

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 12:58

Danny wouldn't recognize the truth if it beat his face in with a hammer

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LisaMarie

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 13:07

Funny you should bring that up Wayne. That is the exact tool you used to threaten the boy at Vitam you abused. WTF!!
This is a fact.

Danny wouldn't recognize the truth if it beat his face in with a hammer.

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LisaMarie

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 13:14

Looky here- Our new Queen and King of OPF's and Fornits

Vicky345uk
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 12:45
Lol psychopath Danny bennison
SandyB
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 12:46
Danny the douche starts in right away attacking a woman
Next he'll accuse me of being Wayne, then prat on about Wayne's atrocities
Then he'll abuse another woman, maybe a guy or two, ans so on, and so on, and .....

Vicky345uk

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 12:49

Stop posting to me Danny. You are a complete and utter liar. Because I wasn't sucked in on the phone by you you completely deny you spoke to me. What a frigging joke....

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LisaMarie

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 13:04

Vicky, go to your phone company and get us a transcript of the phone call, it will show the phone call, that it was received and how long the phone call lasted.
If you do this and post it here so all of us can clearly see that you talked with Danny Bennison, I will stop calling you a liar.
But as far as I am concerned right now, you are a pathological liar.
So put up or shut up.

Vicky345uk

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 13:14

For someone who aint Danny why are you so mad. I have not got prove shit to know one. I know I spoke to Danny bennison. Now stop fucking posting to me you fucked up freaking liar bastard.

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LisaMarie

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 13:18

Vicky, is having a meltdown over not being able to produce phone records. Did you lie again my lill trick.
We knew you were.
Thanks for letting everyone here know that you are nothing more than a one trick pony.

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SandyB

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 13:21

and a no trick phoney

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SandyB

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 13:23

Danny Bennison lives in a room adjacent to the garage behind the house he and his brother Michael inherited from their father. His pregnant sister-in-law Karin's persistent attempts to lure him into the house for a family meal are usually rebuffed, and on the rare occasions he accepts, their conversation is stilted and he seems eager to leave as soon as he can. The young man finds it difficult to interact with or relate to his family, co-workers, or fellow parishioners in the church he regularly attends.

One day Danny Bennison happily announces to Michael and Karin he has a visitor he met via the Internet, a wheelchair-bound missionary of Brazilian and Danish descent named Bianca. The two are startled to discover Bianca is in fact a lifelike doll Danny Bennison ordered from an adult website. Concerned about his mental health, they convince Danny Bennison to take Bianca to Dagmar, the family doctor who is also a psychologist. Dagmar diagnoses Bianca with low blood pressure and advises Danny Bennison he needs to bring her in for weekly treatments, during which she will attempt to analyze him and get to the root of his behavior. She urges Gus and Karin to assist with Danny Bennisons ' therapy by treating Bianca as if she were a real woman.

As time passes, Danny Bennison begins to introduce Bianca as his girlfriend to his co-workers and various townspeople. Aware of the situation, everyone reacts to the doll as if she were real, and Bianca soon finds herself involved in volunteer programs, getting a makeover from the local beautician, and working part-time as a model in a clothing store. Due to their acceptance of Bianca, Danny Bennison soon finds himself interacting more with people. At work, he takes notice of Margo, and when she reveals she has broken up with her boyfriend, Danny Bennison agrees to go bowling with her while Bianca attends a school board meeting. The two spend a pleasant evening, although Danny Bennison is quick to remind Margo he could never cheat on Bianca. She replies she would never expect that of him and tells him she hopes one day to find a man as faithful as he.

One morning, Danny Bennison discovers Bianca is unresponsive, and she's rushed to the hospital by ambulance. Her prognosis isn't good, and Danny Bennison announces Bianca would like to be brought home. News of her illness spreads through town, and everyone whose life has been touched by Bianca brings flowers or food to the Lindstrom home. Michael and Karin suggest Danny Bennison and Bianca join them for a visit to the lake. While the couple is hiking, Danny Bennison kisses Bianca for the first time, just before she dies.

Bianca is given a funeral all the townspeople attend. After Bianca is buried, Danny Bennison and Margo linger at the gravesite and, having come to terms with past traumas, ready to accept adult responsibilities, and filled with newfound self-confidence, he asks her if she would like to take a walk with him, an invitation she happily accepts.

Vicky345uk

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 13:32

What happens next sandy??!

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SandyB

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 13:34

A survivor wrote that. I'll ask her

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LisaMarie

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:03

http://wayneingmoments.blogspot.com/2012_08_01_archive.html

Back online, but...
I have a first draft for Infidel: A Love Story and the query letter is hot
The only thing I haven't done is to sell a book to a big house. This is the one. I'm sure. Don't bet against me. :)
But this means I have to limit my social network time. I hate being away from my friends, but this needs to get done.
I have a good story and likable characters. I have tragedy and humor and beauty.
How can I lose?
Peace everyone. After this I plan to take a few months and get lost in the internet :)

Busted Wayne, this excerpt Wayne K/SandyB wrote above is from his book Infidel. Talk about being infatuated with Danny. Guys this freak is one sick dude, remember I told you.

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SandyB

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:07

It's from Fornits you idiot

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SandyB

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:07

It's from Fornits you idiot

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LisaMarie

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:16

Wayne, you are a liar. Unless you post it there in the near future, there is no post on Fornits that resembles your what you wrote in "Infidel".

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SandyB

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:20

Marietta Daily Journal Legals
8 Apr 2011 ... F-1324 BENNISON, DANIEL L. NOTICE OF SALE UNDER POWER By virtue of the power of sale contained in a Deed to Secure Debt by Daniel L. ..., l.
cherokee.mdjlegals.live.communityq.com

F-1324 BENNISON, DANIEL L. NOTICE OF SALE UNDER POWER By virtue of the power of sale contained in a Deed to Secure Debt by Daniel L. Bennison to Bank of America, N.A., dated September 29, 2006 and filed for record October 12, 2006 in Deed Book 9125, Page 225, Cherokee County, Georgia records, and securing a Note in the original principal amount of $146,000.00, there will be sold at a public outcry for cash to the highest bidder before the Courthouse door of Cherokee County, Georgia, between the legal hours of sale on the first Tuesday in May, 2011, by Bank of America, N.A. as Attorney-in-Fact for Daniel L. Bennison the following property to-wit: All that tract or parcel of land lying and being in Land Lot 1107 of the 21st District, 2nd Section of Cherokee County Georgia and being Lot 227 of Ridge Mill, Phase 1, as per Plat thereof recorded at Plat Book 89, Pages 103 through 105, and all revisions of said plat, if any, Cherokee County, Georgia Records. Said plat and all revised plats, if any, being incorporated herein and made a part hereof by reference for a more complete description of captioned property and being improved property known as 538 Rendezvous Road, Acworth, GA 30102, according to the present system of numbering houses in Cherokee County, Georgia. The above described property is also known as 538 Rendezvous Road, Acworth, GA 30102. The indebtedness secured by said Deed to Secure Debt having been declared due and payable because of default in the payment of the indebtedness secured thereby, this sale will be made for the purpose of paying the same and all expenses of sale, including attorney's fees, if applicable. The property will be sold as the property of the aforesaid grantor subject to the following: all prior restrictive covenants, easements, rights-of-way, security deeds, or encumbrances of record; all valid zoning ordinances; matters which would be disclosed by an accurate survey of the property or by any inspection of the property; all outstanding taxes, assessments, unpaid bills, charges, and expenses that are a lien against the property whether due and payable or not yet due and payable. To the best of the undersigned's knowledge and belief, possession of the subject property is held by Daniel L. Bennison . Pursuant to O.C.G.A. § 44-14-162.2, the name, address and telephone number of the individual or entity who shall have the full authority to negotiate, amend or modify all terms of the above described mortgage is as follows: BAC Home Loans Servicing, L.P., Attn: Loss Mitigation Dept., P. O. Box 5170, MS SV314B, Simi Valley, CA 93065, Telephone: 1-800-669-6650. The foregoing notwithstanding, nothing in O.C.G.A. § 44-14-162.2 shall be construed to require BAC Home Loans Servcing, LP as servicer for Bank of America, N.A. to negotiate, amend or modify the terms of the Deed to Secure Debt described herein. Bank of America, N.A. as Attorney-in-Fact for Daniel L. Bennison SHUPING, MORSE & ROSS, LLP By: S. Andrew Shuping, Jr. S. Andrew Shuping, Jr. 6259 Riverdale Road, Suite 100 Riverdale, Georgia 30274-1698 (770) 991-0000 THIS LAW FIRM IS ATTEMPTING TO COLLECT A DEBT. ANY INFORMATION OBTAINED WILL BE USED FOR THAT PURPOSE. 4:8,15,22,29

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SandyB

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:24

Deadbeat bum

Vicky345uk

Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:07

Lisa it's scary, I' ve heard of friends sticking up for friends but jeez you so angry. Calm down Lisa your not Danny.

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