Why would die hard AAer's watch anti AA video's on YouTube, come to anti AA website and start arguing about how wonderful AA is and that orange papers is wrong???? Nobody is answering that question. I think it's because they really want to break free from the cult but are scared to do so.
Why is this video, and it appears as though there's a set of them, done in Anonymous style
As a safeguard against death threats. There’s not only Control Freaks, Sexual Predators and Paedophiles in your disgusting cult....there are also murderers. What a truly diverse collection of sickos, deviants and misfits you stepper truebelivers are
......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11
I don't need the luck now, Ive been thoroughly deprogramed from satans cult. I wish the OP and alterntive support group networks had been around 30 years ago when I really needed them. My life would have been far far more produtive and happier. But I can't get the lost years or opportunities back neither can my freinds who died get there lives back.
It is the bemused and desparate who are still being preyed upon by the lying scarmongering death cult that need the luck. And if the OP keeps getting more and more popular, many of them will hopefully find that 'luck' and find release from the predatory cancer that is steppism.
There is such a thing as a spiritual disease, it is called steppism......a cancer of the soul.........mind screwing and death dealing.
I wish you NO luck in your cult recruitment
......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11
"Others would claim they gained 30 years in there, free from addiction etc."
So you don't consider 30 years in steppism as an addiction to the cult? You can learn everything there is to learn about steppism in 3 months tops. 30 years in steppism is just 3 months repeated 120 times. The identical same speech is repeated over and over again, I call it the "they told me,,,,I want what they've got,,,,,character defect speech." It was the last speech I heard when i walked out of my last stepper meeting about 4 years ago. Total cult indocrtination.
"I do find peace there. Visiting and participating” “have a very serene experience for me and many others"
"I don't fault others for my own failings."
Just standard stepper cult BS speak.....meaningless....something steppers woffle on about at meetings trying to make out they are on some kind of higher level of spiritual development and have gained some non-existent insight, revealed to them from following lying, thieving, acid popping, sexual predator, con man Bill Wilson and the child battering deviant doctors insane ramblings.
You lot are always claiming serenity coming out of your ears.....its one of the priciple things steppers do, doesn't mean anything real. You might be able to con some poor desperate soul newly in the cult and clutching at straws....its just stepper cult speak to me.....lies. Nobody in the cult ever looked particulaly serene to me……just nuts or screwed up....or wanting to NOT be there
"Can't say I'm working the steps"
There's no such thing as 'working' the steps. How do you 'work' those cult practices pinched from the Oxford Group cult? Write down a load of character defects to make you feel more like shit than you already do? and make a load of false amends made under duress and then go recruiting for the cult in the deluded belief that this guarantees your own sobriety, even if it severely damages those vulnerable victims you manage to con into the cult, for your own self-serving motives, is that 'working' the steps? The other steps, admitting you are powerless blah! Blah! Blah! are just 'non-events’.....nothing……..nonsense
There’s no ‘work’ involved in the steps.....how many AA gurus actually have a job?
Steppers don't 'work' anything, they just continue to repeat cult BS and try to con other people into the cult
......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11
"I think it's because they really want to break free from the cult but are scared to do so."
I believe that is true about becket.
The others are just stepper zombies, but Ive wondered for a while now if becket does really want to "enter the light" so to speak, but she is scared of ridicule or does not want to publically admit that she wasted so many years in the cult or other reasons for resisting the desire to join with the Anti AA movement.
On the other hand I could be very wrong
......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11
Vicky, there's never a bad time to quote this mesa-grand study from the World Health Organization.
"the mesa-grand study found evidence of ineffectiveness of 12-step facilitation from 6 studies and of ineffectiveness of Alcoholics Anonymous from 7 studies (109). An additional systematic review of 8 studies found no studies that unequivocally demonstrated the effectiveness of Alcoholics Anonymous or 12-step facilitation approaches for reducing alcohol dependence or alcohol-related problems (133)."
Why would die hard OPFer's post anti AA video's on YouTube, come to anti AA website and start arguing about how wonderful OPF is and that AA is wrong???? Nobody is answering that question. I think it's because they really haven't broken free from AA but are scared to do so.
You just cannot walk away. Does AA really control you that much that you cannot stop babbling on about AA this and AA that?
"I think it's because they really haven't broken free from AA but are scared to do so."
We are not totally self-obsessed as you steppers are. Some of us will never be free from AA as long as it is allowed to prey upon the desperate and vulnerable, mind screwing and killing them in the name of God, with the blessing of Joe Public
Do you think we enjoy digging up the old wounds and having any form of dialogue with you steppers? Personally I would rather NEVER converse with a stepper again, I wish you would just fade away....but you won't will you?.....you will continue to attempt to pollute mankind with the spiritual cancer that is steppism, in the deluded belief that doing so guarantees your OWN sobriety, no matter what the cost to the majority who fall into the clutches of steppism
We have to continue to do what we can to expose your demonic cult to save minds and lives of people who are suffering from our common problem, substance misuse, until there is no more stepper cult
......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11
Why Come into the "drama"here , and you being and dick and getting sucked into it. If you had serenity you would not be in an AA anti chatroom. You are sucking on the devils dick Hunni......
To be in that mind set. In a way I am glad the steppers are on here it makes me see how well I am. So to all you die hard AAers thank you, you keep giving me reminders of just how bad it was when I was in the cult.
@ Vicky
I know that they are here all the time & day after day just keeps reminding me & others to keep not coming back to the aa cult! They are daily reminders of how bad the cult is & was. They are perfect to help with one's deprogramming! And they will continue to keep posting here. Our trolls Clara, First things First, Becket, Alkieanon & Lisa Marie aka Danny they will keep coming back daily due to being obsessed with defending the cult! Aaahh its good to be deprogrammed & free from the aa cult & its parroting steppers!
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First-Things-First (not verified)
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 03:52
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Vicky345uk
Mon, 08/06/2012 - 10:18
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FTF
You going to come to the dark side??????
First-Things-First (not verified)
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 03:53
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Vicky345uk
Mon, 08/06/2012 - 10:44
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Xxxxx
Smooch woochy
First-Things-First (not verified)
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 03:53
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Vicky345uk
Mon, 08/06/2012 - 14:31
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Tehe
Booshy woooshy
LisaMarie
Mon, 08/06/2012 - 10:35
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Lmao....luv it!! Thanx FTF
Lmao....luv it!!
Thanx FTF
First-Things-First (not verified)
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 03:53
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First-Things-First (not verified)
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 03:53
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First-Things-First (not verified)
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 03:53
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First-Things-First (not verified)
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 03:53
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live_free_or_die
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 05:06
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Now we have quadruplicate?
stepper malfuction!
Thanks FTF.
Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
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Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/
Vicky345uk
Mon, 08/06/2012 - 10:27
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Why
Why would die hard AAer's watch anti AA video's on YouTube, come to anti AA website and start arguing about how wonderful AA is and that orange papers is wrong???? Nobody is answering that question. I think it's because they really want to break free from the cult but are scared to do so.
First-Things-First (not verified)
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 03:54
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NoAAUK
Mon, 08/06/2012 - 11:05
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FTF
another video for you to watch even though you are obviously too indoctrinated to learn or admit anything
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP-9eVHrvCc
......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11
First-Things-First (not verified)
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 03:54
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NoAAUK
Mon, 08/06/2012 - 11:36
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FTF
Why is this video, and it appears as though there's a set of them, done in Anonymous style
As a safeguard against death threats. There’s not only Control Freaks, Sexual Predators and Paedophiles in your disgusting cult....there are also murderers. What a truly diverse collection of sickos, deviants and misfits you stepper truebelivers are
......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11
First-Things-First (not verified)
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 03:54
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(No subject)
NoAAUK
Mon, 08/06/2012 - 12:35
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FTF
"But until then, good luck."
I don't need the luck now, Ive been thoroughly deprogramed from satans cult. I wish the OP and alterntive support group networks had been around 30 years ago when I really needed them. My life would have been far far more produtive and happier. But I can't get the lost years or opportunities back neither can my freinds who died get there lives back.
It is the bemused and desparate who are still being preyed upon by the lying scarmongering death cult that need the luck. And if the OP keeps getting more and more popular, many of them will hopefully find that 'luck' and find release from the predatory cancer that is steppism.
There is such a thing as a spiritual disease, it is called steppism......a cancer of the soul.........mind screwing and death dealing.
I wish you NO luck in your cult recruitment
......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11
First-Things-First (not verified)
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 03:55
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NoAAUK
Mon, 08/06/2012 - 13:53
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FTF
"Others would claim they gained 30 years in there, free from addiction etc."
So you don't consider 30 years in steppism as an addiction to the cult? You can learn everything there is to learn about steppism in 3 months tops. 30 years in steppism is just 3 months repeated 120 times. The identical same speech is repeated over and over again, I call it the "they told me,,,,I want what they've got,,,,,character defect speech." It was the last speech I heard when i walked out of my last stepper meeting about 4 years ago. Total cult indocrtination.
"I do find peace there. Visiting and participating” “have a very serene experience for me and many others"
"I don't fault others for my own failings."
Just standard stepper cult BS speak.....meaningless....something steppers woffle on about at meetings trying to make out they are on some kind of higher level of spiritual development and have gained some non-existent insight, revealed to them from following lying, thieving, acid popping, sexual predator, con man Bill Wilson and the child battering deviant doctors insane ramblings.
You lot are always claiming serenity coming out of your ears.....its one of the priciple things steppers do, doesn't mean anything real. You might be able to con some poor desperate soul newly in the cult and clutching at straws....its just stepper cult speak to me.....lies. Nobody in the cult ever looked particulaly serene to me……just nuts or screwed up....or wanting to NOT be there
"Can't say I'm working the steps"
There's no such thing as 'working' the steps. How do you 'work' those cult practices pinched from the Oxford Group cult? Write down a load of character defects to make you feel more like shit than you already do? and make a load of false amends made under duress and then go recruiting for the cult in the deluded belief that this guarantees your own sobriety, even if it severely damages those vulnerable victims you manage to con into the cult, for your own self-serving motives, is that 'working' the steps? The other steps, admitting you are powerless blah! Blah! Blah! are just 'non-events’.....nothing……..nonsense
There’s no ‘work’ involved in the steps.....how many AA gurus actually have a job?
Steppers don't 'work' anything, they just continue to repeat cult BS and try to con other people into the cult
......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11
First-Things-First (not verified)
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 03:55
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NoAAUK
Mon, 08/06/2012 - 11:03
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Vicky
"I think it's because they really want to break free from the cult but are scared to do so."
I believe that is true about becket.
The others are just stepper zombies, but Ive wondered for a while now if becket does really want to "enter the light" so to speak, but she is scared of ridicule or does not want to publically admit that she wasted so many years in the cult or other reasons for resisting the desire to join with the Anti AA movement.
On the other hand I could be very wrong
......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11
causeandeffect
Mon, 08/06/2012 - 18:19
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Vicky, there's never a bad
Vicky, there's never a bad time to quote this mesa-grand study from the World Health Organization.
"the mesa-grand study found evidence of ineffectiveness of 12-step facilitation from 6 studies and of ineffectiveness of Alcoholics Anonymous from 7 studies (109). An additional systematic review of 8 studies found no studies that unequivocally demonstrated the effectiveness of Alcoholics Anonymous or 12-step facilitation approaches for reducing alcohol dependence or alcohol-related problems (133)."
Troll free AA critical forum
http://www.expaa.org/
"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." ~ Neil deGrasse Tyson
alkieanon
Mon, 08/06/2012 - 20:30
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Why
Why would die hard OPFer's post anti AA video's on YouTube, come to anti AA website and start arguing about how wonderful OPF is and that AA is wrong???? Nobody is answering that question. I think it's because they really haven't broken free from AA but are scared to do so.
You just cannot walk away. Does AA really control you that much that you cannot stop babbling on about AA this and AA that?
NoAAUK
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 00:16
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alkie
"I think it's because they really haven't broken free from AA but are scared to do so."
We are not totally self-obsessed as you steppers are. Some of us will never be free from AA as long as it is allowed to prey upon the desperate and vulnerable, mind screwing and killing them in the name of God, with the blessing of Joe Public
Do you think we enjoy digging up the old wounds and having any form of dialogue with you steppers? Personally I would rather NEVER converse with a stepper again, I wish you would just fade away....but you won't will you?.....you will continue to attempt to pollute mankind with the spiritual cancer that is steppism, in the deluded belief that doing so guarantees your OWN sobriety, no matter what the cost to the majority who fall into the clutches of steppism
We have to continue to do what we can to expose your demonic cult to save minds and lives of people who are suffering from our common problem, substance misuse, until there is no more stepper cult
......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11
Vicky345uk
Mon, 08/06/2012 - 10:42
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Peace baby
Nope still ain't answered...... Peace out FTF
First-Things-First (not verified)
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 03:55
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Vicky345uk
Mon, 08/06/2012 - 14:24
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FTF go and be with the "steppers" and be serene over there.....
Why Come into the "drama"here , and you being and dick and getting sucked into it. If you had serenity you would not be in an AA anti chatroom. You are sucking on the devils dick Hunni......
Peace out baby
First-Things-First (not verified)
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 03:55
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Vicky345uk
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 00:19
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Lol
Right back at ya baby...... Peace out
NoAAUK
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 00:20
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Excellent video
Excellent video
Franks drunkalogue LOL brings back 'unhappy' memories
All the steppers that come on this forum are definitley 'out to fukin lunch' LOL
......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11
Vicky345uk
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 00:28
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Alkie
Of course I have walked away that's why I am in an ANTI AA WEBSITE.. And be with like minded people. Alkie wake up and get the fuck out the cult.
Vicky345uk
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 00:34
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I would hate
To be in that mind set. In a way I am glad the steppers are on here it makes me see how well I am. So to all you die hard AAers thank you, you keep giving me reminders of just how bad it was when I was in the cult.
Keep coming back steppers it fucking works.....
patti
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 11:12
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@ Vicky
@ Vicky
I know that they are here all the time & day after day just keeps reminding me & others to keep not coming back to the aa cult! They are daily reminders of how bad the cult is & was. They are perfect to help with one's deprogramming! And they will continue to keep posting here. Our trolls Clara, First things First, Becket, Alkieanon & Lisa Marie aka Danny they will keep coming back daily due to being obsessed with defending the cult! Aaahh its good to be deprogrammed & free from the aa cult & its parroting steppers!
patti
Vicky345uk
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 11:35
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Yep patti
Your so right. There are pro AA website yet they spend every waking minute on a anti AA website forum. Boy those steppers are INSANE