Here's another good Maia Szalavitz article on Narconon and the nature of faith based treatment for substance abuse issues. I don't want to cut and paste it all without permission, and the first part on Narconon is good as well, but I thought I'd just cut and paste here the bits about 12 step treatment:
"If we are to improve addiction treatment, faith-based care should be as unacceptable as the primary treatment as it is for cancer or heart disease. And that means that supporters of twelve-step programs will have to make some big changes. If addiction is a disease, meeting and prayer can be viewed no longer as treatment for it but merely as adjuncts to care—as they are for other medical conditions. If addiction is a disease, twelve-step material cannot be used in rehab itself— referrals to meetings can be made, information can be provided, and even onsite meetings made available, but counseling can’t consist of use of the steps. That’s just not how medicine or mainstream psychology is practiced.
As with other conditions, the spiritual aspects of the problem—for those who find them important or believe they exist at all—need to be kept separate from medical and psychological care. Otherwise, there will be no way to prevent religious ideas from being sold as treatment: if rehabs can sell programs based on the confession, surrender and faith aspect of AA, why shouldn’t they be able to sell Scientology?
There’s no way to set standards when treatment relies on a higher power: if God, why not Xenu?
And if they can sell Scientology, why not any belief about treatment anyone wants to promote? There’s no way to set standards of care when your treatment relies on a higher power: if God, why not Xenu?
Some will argue that twelve-step facilitation—a manualized treatment that involves introduction to the steps and encouragement of participation in the program—has been shown in some studies to be as effective as more standard “evidence-based” programs like motivational interviewing and cognitive behavioral therapy. They will point to research showing that those who do affiliate with AA or NA do better in the long term than those who do not.
But that doesn’t make AA a type of medicine any more than depression recovery through social support is a type of medical care. The mind and body are not separate, and belief certainly can play a role in healing. That doesn’t mean the main medicine for any disorder should be faith. If we continue to allow this, we shouldn’t be surprised when people die in addiction treatment. Medicine itself only advanced and stopped killing more people than it helped when it began to rely on data rather than faith: we need to hold addiction care to this standard, too."
Read it all here: http://www.thefix.com/content/narconon-deaths?page=1
Free
Wed, 08/01/2012 - 18:38
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'If we are to improve addiction treatment,
faith-based care should be as unacceptable as the primary treatment as it is for cancer or heart disease.'
The main way that 12 Step rehabs will come to be seen as unacceptable is through the continued exposure of their failures - on sites like this.
aasux
Wed, 08/01/2012 - 20:59
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Excellent commentary and spot
Excellent commentary and spot on. Just pray your cancer goes away...if it's a disease, and I doubt it is, then treat it exactly like the above says: with real therapeutically proven modalities. If it's behavior based, then provide enough negative feedback and you will quit. Rehab, for me, was all the negative feedback I will ever need for lifelong sobriety. It wasn't anything more than that. just down time and no work time and missing family time. it was all bullshit, which is what the rehab industry relies on to propagate and profit.
alkieanon
Wed, 08/01/2012 - 22:07
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Name Game
Behaviour modification.
JR Harris
Wed, 08/01/2012 - 22:16
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Are you a fan of Scientology Alkieanon?
Do you make the pilgrimage every year to the Stepping Stones compound of the Spiritualist Bill Wilson in Katonah New York or the Fort Harrison Hotel of fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard in Clearwater Florida? Perhaps you go to both? Intercult relations Alkieanon.....
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
alkieanon
Wed, 08/01/2012 - 22:24
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Are you a fan of Bokononism JR Harris?
JR Harris whines: "Do you make the pilgrimage every year to the Stepping Stones compound of the Spiritualist Bill Wilson in Katonah New York or the Fort Harrison Hotel of fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard in Clearwater Florida? Perhaps you go to both? Intercult relations Alkieanon....."
Does JR Harris babble on about Orange Papers?
"I wanted all things
To seem to make sense,
So we all could be happy, yes,
Instead of tense.
And I made up lies
So that they all fit nice,
And I made this sad world
A par-a-dise."
JR Harris
Wed, 08/01/2012 - 22:30
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I'm rubber you're glue Alkieanon?
Quit being so childish, besides the sober home/rehab you work for is getting upset about your lack of being able to minimize the problems in AA, you will loose your job soon because of it......
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
alkieanon
Wed, 08/01/2012 - 22:36
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I Know You Are, But What Am I? JR Harris
JR Harris whines: "Quit being so childish, besides the sober home/rehab you work for is getting upset about your lack of being able to minimize the problems in AA, you will loose your job soon because of it......."
Quit being so childish, besides the rest home/rehab you live in is getting upset about your pitiful efforts of being able to maximize your problems with AA, you will lose your mind soon because of it.
JR Harris
Wed, 08/01/2012 - 22:41
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Bravo!! Alkieanon good kindergarten playground tactics!
Bravo!! Alkieanon good kindergarten playground tactics! The next step is to become the kindergarten bully, do you think you are up to it? (patiently waiting for the idiotic I'm rubber you're glue response....)
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
alkieanon
Wed, 08/01/2012 - 22:47
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All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten
JR Harris whines: "Bravo!! Alkieanon good kindergarten playground tactics! The next step is to become the kindergarten bully, do you think you are up to it? (patiently waiting for the idiotic I'm rubber you're glue response....)"
All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten: "Everything you need to know is in there somewhere. The Golden Rule and love and basic sanitation. Ecology and politics and equality and sane living."
alkieanon
Wed, 08/01/2012 - 22:52
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Staring Down The Bully
Staring down the bully. It's a dirty job.
avogadno
Wed, 08/01/2012 - 22:24
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Yep, now that I have my
Yep, now that I have my bearings again and look at 12 step I think of witchcraft. It's as strange to me as genies, black magic, hocus pocus. This only as I step back and look at the big picture. When your tired and confused, for me used to having some faith, and the steps are presented slowly and rationalized it seems harmless to try. The slow warping of defining
Pro Empowerment!
Truth about AA: http://orange-papers.org/menu1.html
Expose AA: http://www.expaa.org/
avogadno
Wed, 08/01/2012 - 22:28
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And thought changing is
And thought changing is invasive. Take into consideration all of the tactics of conviction and I finally understand the process. It's not treatment it is a mind fucking.
Pro Empowerment!
Truth about AA: http://orange-papers.org/menu1.html
Expose AA: http://www.expaa.org/