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Such an inetresting article. Wonder what AA member would make of it?
Mon, 05/14/2012 - 18:08
I've said that myself. If people answer the qustions honestly, anyway.
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Mon, 05/14/2012 - 18:23
if the industry continues to push for total market saturation.
Every person that has been on a good drunk will fall under this decision sooner or later. People will begin to actually google the effectiveness of the recovery industry and begin to realize what a disaster it is, and how deceptive the industry and the AA faith are.
Mon, 05/14/2012 - 18:42
Now that's just crazy. The DSM will now be responsible for labeling every school kid who can't sit still or keep his mouth shut as having ADHD and every college kid who over indulges on warm beer and Jaegermeister at the local dive bar as being an alcoholic.
"If I forget who I am, I am myself. If I remember who I am, I am you."
Mon, 05/14/2012 - 18:46
This is but one example of what I was talking about the other day when I said the DSM is more dangerous than the Big Book.
Mon, 05/14/2012 - 18:59
I completely agree. I've known far too many Social Workers, Psychologists and Psychiatrists refer to it as the Bible and nearly salivate as they thumb through it looking for a dx to slap on a child. Then quickly cross-reference for the appropriate drug to feed the patient.
Mon, 05/14/2012 - 19:00
It also begs the question of accountability.
Whether it is a guidebook, instruction manual, big list of suggestions, or simply a book of spells and witchcraftery its should have accountability somewhat equal to its claimed credibility.
Those of us that are actively attempting to expose the deceptive practices of the AA faith and the recovery industry need to continue to show up around the internet to counter this misleading propaganda.
Mon, 05/14/2012 - 19:16
I planned all my classes in college so that I was done with classes by 2pm. Then I hit the library to study from 2pm to around 7-8pm ( I lived on campus) everyday.
Then it was off to the bars and do some 2 stepping (almost every night).
I guesss it was a good thing I didn't run into an addiction counselor back then. My roomate was a psych major though, and he was a strange bird ( everything he owned was powder blue, even his clothes hangars-weird)
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Mon, 05/14/2012 - 19:18
That's actually a very responsible study schedule!
Mon, 05/14/2012 - 21:43
Well you asked, I have been a sober member of AA for 27 years. The study sounds ridiclous. I went to HS and college with plenty of heavy drinkers who never became alcoholic. I still see a few and they still drink heavy from time to time and even get out of control at times, but they are able to keep their life together and flip off the switch when they really need to. I never could.
Pg 20-21 of the Big Book talks about heavy drinkers who may endure consequences from drinking but are not alcoholic and can usually quit on their own if need be.
No AA member should ever tell anyone if they are alcoholic or not, or if they should be part of the fellowship. Our primary purpose is the help those who want help and determine themselves to be alcoholic. I hope this can help, Rob
Tue, 05/15/2012 - 11:06
You say you "never could flip off the switch". But you quit drinking 27 years ago. So apparently you could "flip off the switch". Your membership in AA is quite irrelevant, but congrats on your sobriety, you did it yourself.