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Some AA troll is posting OP blog entrys on craigs list and the steppers are all in a twitter. They are so defensive about their cult that they have to draw bits and pieces from here to justify themselves. Check it out it is sad.

Alcoholics Anonymous (AA): Where in the steps does the Miracle occur?

Can a 12 stepper, or anybody else, tell us when exactly the promise of the personal miracle happens?god allegedly performs a daily miracle for the stepper to keep him sober. When? After step 7?

What's wrong with OPF? Hacked?

No matter what page I want to read on the OPF, I get directed to this page (something in German)... WTF??? Error 404 Not Found The requested URL was not found on this server. Seite nicht gefunden Die von Ihnen gesuchte Seite ist entweder nicht mehr vorhanden oder Sie haben sich möglicherweise beim Eingeben der URL vertippt.

What's wrong with OPF? Hacked?

No matter what page I want to read on the OPF, I get directed to this page (something in German)... WTF???

Pennywise says...


Down in the Basement

To the tune of Up on the Housetop, which can be heard here: Down in the basement steppers chant Try to stay dry but say they can't Up from the sewer with lengthy books All for the newcomers Fuckin' crooks Ho, ho, ho! Who wouldn't go? Ho, ho, ho! It's the 12 steppin' show! Down in the basement fill, fill, fill With lots of pigeons for Good Saint Bill! First comes the reading 0f How it Works So begin these circle jerks

Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) Christmas Carols? Which one is your favorite?


With the first Step of AA
My HP gave to me,
A day of sobriety.

With the second Step of AA
My HP gave to me,
A wee bit of faith, and

With the third Step of AA
My HP gave to me,
Will -- ing -- ness.

My HP gave to me,
pencil, pad & pen,

With the fifth Step of AA
My HP gave to me,
Another Human Being

With the sixth Step of AA
My HP gave to me,
Lots of opinions. . .

Cause and Effect:Why alcoholics Drink

A A touts the it's a hereditary disease/God did this to me.boohoo,I din't have no choice.DNA/DENIAL

"I have a sponsor who has a sponsor who's sponsor was Dr. Bob. "

"I have a sponsor who has a sponsor who's sponsor was Dr. Bob." That obviously makes you know what you are talking about? WOW, just WOW.....

Steppers and Jesus

Ok, correct me if I am wrong, but here is my understanding: 1). Steppers believe Dr. Silkworth's theory that we are allergic to alcohol. 2). Christians believe that in order to be a good Christian, you have to drink Christ's blood. 3). To drink Christ's blood, you have to drink consecrated wine, which is an alcoholic beverage. Accordingly, because steppers are allergic to alcohol, and because one can consume Christ's blood only by drinking an alcoholic beverage, in therefore follows that steppers are allergic to Jesus. Q.E.D. EDIT:

Felons and Drug Dealers run Half way houses for addicts. How did Troy Charles, a felon with a history of violence, theft and drug dealing, get into the business of housing recovering addicts? Easy. Almost anyone can open a halfway house in Florida because there's almost no regulation or accountability.

Tyler Alred Sentenced To Go To Church (MANDATED)

Tyler Alred Sentenced To Go To Church After Manslaughter Conviction An Oklahoma teen convicted of manslaughter has sentenced to 10 years of probation, with requirements that include regularly attending church. Tyler Alred, now 17, had been drinking when he crashed a pickup truck at around 4 a.m. on Dec. 3, 2011, Tulsa World reports. The accident killed Alred's friend, 16-year-old John Luke Dum, who was a passenger in the vehicle.

Bill Wilson on the Lord's Prayer
A Letter From Bill Wilson About The Use Of The Lord’s Prayer At A.A. Meetings April 14, 1959 Dear Russ, Am right sorry for my delay in answering. Lois and I were a long time out of the country and this was followed by an attack of the marathon type of flu that has been around here in New York. We are okay now, however, but I did want to explain my delay. Now about the business of adding the Lord’s Prayer to each A.A. meeting.


Funny thing about none of my business.Early when Sant ji was just 15 years old.Carol taught me that if,another really big word.If I see that someone is drowning and I have the ability to save them, BUT

Alcoholics Anonymous (AA): Unprescribing medications

AA sponsors can fuck you up! AA can fuck you up!! The 12 Steps can fuck you up!!! ********************************************************************************* PJ says: June 25, 2012 at 8:25 PM The first relapse (that nearly killed someone I love) was triggered by a thoughtless/baseless unconscionable communication by his “AA sponsor” shortly after he began investing his energy/his spirit into the program.

Alcoholics Anonymous (AA): Have You Been Naughty or Nice?

Lois Burnham Wilson - what was up with Lois W.?

Why did she stick with Bill W. when she knew he was a naughty boy? Lois W. started Al-Anon right? So she had the same disease Bill W. had right? Did Lois do the 12 steps? Lois’ parents were upper middle class - Why did she stick with such a loser?

Big Book Meeting?

Reminds me a little of a Big Book Meeting, although Monty Python is amusing and some of it does make sense. Seriously although I too lost friends to this weird cult, it beggars belief that anyone can take this nonsense serious in this century, let alone it still dominates the 'so called' recovery industry of the Developed West? God can be an apple tree or an hair dryer LOL

John Schlueter pleads "No Contest" to embezzling $9,000 from Santa Barbara Central Office of AA - Nov 16, 2012

Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) "Manager" John Schlueter pleads "No Contest" to embezzling $9,000. The conviction of the former "Manager" of the Santa Barbara Central Office of Alcoholics Anonymous (located at 1213 State Street, Suite H, Santa Barbara, CA 93101 in Alcoholics Anonymous General Service Area 93 District 23) leaves many questions unanswered.

Alcoholic Anonymous and Faith

Why do members of AA have to believe the 12 Step Program of Recovery based on either epistemic or beneficial reasons? Epistemic: relating to knowledge. Cannot the 12 Step Program of Recovery be based on faith? Let us take a look at some theories of faith in order to see the problems of believing on faith. “Big Bills” theory is representative of a traditional conception of faith. In his view, faith is not opposed to reason but is in some respects guided by it. In contrast to “Big Bill” some religious thinkers' have maintained that faith needs no rational guidance.

Is AA in denial about denial?

AA and 12-Step literature is littered with references about denial in the alcoholic. Some recent and up to date examples are shown below: "...denial of the problem is symptomatic of alcoholism..." “Rationalization and denial are part of the alcoholic’s illness. Initial rejection of A.A. is part of the denial mechanism.” AA as a Resource for the Health Care Professional (

Matthew 7:13

Can the last three spiritual passages [emphasis mine] be reconciled with the first? “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.” (Matthew 7:13) -------



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What happens when Frankenstein meets Alcoholics Anonymous?

The Friendly AA meeting listening to Frankensteins "Share"....

Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) Member Medications and Other Drugs (pamphlet P-11) is Conference Approved and confesses to suicides

A.A. members and many of their physicians have described situations in which depressed patients have been told by A.A.s to throw away the pills, only to have depression return with all its difficulties, sometimes resulting in suicide.
Source: The "confession" from Alcoholics Anonymous then continues....

The 40-80-90 rule: What AA's GSO has known about its low member retention rate/effectiveness for over 20 years

Much has been written about the fact that based on its 1989 internal report "Comments on A.A.'s Triennial Surveys" (COTS) AA's GSO knew that the drop out rate of new members was a minimum of 50% within the first 3 months and a minimum of 74% by the 12th month of attendance. What is rarely mentioned is that the COTS report also shows that in 1989 AA's GSO was well aware that the long term retention of members was abysmal.

Bill W., AA, 12 steps, Detox Centers: Follow The Money

Trinidad, Colorado was persuaded they needed a detox center. So an Executive Director of a detox unit in a nearby city gets together with law enforcement officals to create a need for the "needed" detox unit. It seems the Tinidad Police Department decided to arrest anybody they wanted to.


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