Submitted by Brett on Fri, 04/27/2012 - 11:13
Can a hardened drinker\'s (lets say a 6 beer bingers) brain ever recover from the excesses of alcohol?
1. Avoidance Denial Pattern - Continually try to change the subject of "is AA/NA a cult" to that of something else.
2. Absolute Denial Denial Pattern - States that there is no way that AA/NA could be a cult.
3. Minimizing Denial Pattern - Uses the "ends justifies the means" defense on the subject not ever actually answering the question.
4. Rationalizing Denial Pattern - States that there is nothing else that can be used, so AA/NA must be better.
5. Blaming Denial Pattern - Blames the problems with AA/NA on the Court System and Rehabs.
Submitted by humanspirit on Thu, 04/26/2012 - 11:59
Not quite as off-topic as it seems. There's an interesting debate going on over at the Guardian at the moment - apparently some evangelical christian has said that depression is caused by ego, resentments, self-pity, etc. and that finding God is the answer (now where have we all heard something like that before?):
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2012/apr/26/god-cure-depr...
A stepper over at the James Randi forum wrote this:
"I heard recently of a sponsor telling a woman to write a list of traits she would want God to have, then pray to that piece of paper."
These people are so fucking crazy, they don't know when they're lampooning themselves.
Hey everybody it's time for a little fun with delusion! Did you know the Living Sober book has the capacity to KILL alcoholics. Well, yes, yes it does according to this group from e-AA.
Living Sober
I find it very sad to see this book being used as a focus for meetings of AA, It was published after both Dr Bob and Bill had died and I wonder if they would have supported it's publication.
Clancy I is a well known AA Speaker and runs the Pacific Group in Southern California. He is known by name, picture and voice internationally and talks at AA meetings and conferences worldwide. He is best known for being the Sponsor of Mike Quinones, widely known as Mike Q. of the Midtown AA group that encouraged opposite sex Sponsors and older AA members to prey on very young female newcomers.
Submitted by Brett on Wed, 04/25/2012 - 12:39
Can a non-alcoholic (lets face it 6 beer bingers don't count) not speak for A.A & still be taken seriously?
6 bloody beer binge rolmao lol
The Android Spy will keep you from interrogating like a detective and hence not make the other person feel as if they’re in prison.The Android Spy is simple to install on the cell phone of whoever is in rehab. A very simple installation followed by even easier monitoring. You can keep an eye whoever’s in rehab, let’s say your best friend for instance, by just logging on to your online account and reviewing their call logs or message logs.
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Submitted by Brett on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 15:05
Why did the stepper x the road: he got confused which side of the street he was cleaning up.
how many steppers does it take to change a light bulb: none steppers aren't scared of being powerless.
how many beers does it take to be an alcoholic: 6 but ya have to binge on 'em.
6 bloody beers lol lol rolmao
Submitted by msafrany on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 14:08
Submitted by Soberman on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 03:28
If a ‘God as we understand Him’ exists, would a belief in this God offer a sound foundation for moral values and duties based on facts rather than thoughts or opinions?
Can the alcoholic base his/her sobriety on a plan that includes a“Don’t drink, do as you please”concept?
Soberman
Why not?
I did it.
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But the following comments are worth keeping... :-)
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Submitted by Brett on Tue, 04/24/2012 - 00:24
Can someone be termed alcoholic because they lose it (their life becomes unmanagable) after a 6 beer drinking binge ?
Marty Mann breaks personal anonymity and did so at the level of press. Instead of scorned for her obvious lack of humility and overt infringement of Step 11, she’s historically praised.
----11. Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio, and films.----
Submitted by msafrany on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 05:43
During recent threads a number of questions have been posed and the answers given by the faithful usually consisted of stating that the AA position is.... and the quoting an AA approved piece of literature. Because of the ambiguous nature of most of the crap AA pumps out, these threads have gone on and on and not really got anywhere.
Minnesota, home of the Minnesota Model and Hazelden the unofficial training arm of Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous 12 Step councilors and Interventionists (paid bounty hunters of the 12 Step faith) have just announced the newest batch of felony criminals sentenced to the 12 Step rooms in Sherburne County. Out of the 14 Felony convictions, only three were directly mandated to the rooms of AA or NA, the other ones are awaiting evaluations and probation. The evaluations and probation may require AA and NA attendance and is covered by Area 35, Disrict 5 in Alcoholics Anonymous.
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