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FFRF Stops mandatory treatment prayers (October 22, 2013)

Military veterans sent to substance abuse treatment by the Sacramento Veterans Administration in California will be offered an alternative to religious programs because of an FFRF letter of complaint. FFRF was contacted by a veteran who said that in his program, he was forced to take part in prayers and meetings that emphasized God. Despite multiple talks with counselors about his beliefs, he was threatened with expulsion if he so much as stepped out of the room during prayers.

The TRUE Christian Alternative to 12-Step & Recovery Programs - Part Three (Following Jesus Christ)

This is PART THREE of the introduction to The Battle Plan, titled, "The True Christian Alternative to 12-Step/Recovery Programs". This is not from the book titled Twelve Steps To Destruction, by Dr. Martin and Deidre Bobgan. However, I still highly recommend that you read this book and I will get back to commenting on it later. You can read this book for free online at: http://www.psychoheresy-aware.org/e-books/12steps-ebk.pdf. The Bible says... "[God] giveth grace to the humble" (1Pe 5:5 KJV) Humbling Ourselves

Pledge to not engage the preacher prick......

The undersigned hereby do swear not to engage the Troll, & invite other forum members to pay out them should they fail in the quest..

When Quitting Drinking Is On Your Resolution List

When Quitting Drinking Is On Your Resolution List Published on December 20, 2013 by Anne M. Fletcher, M.S., R.D. in Inside Rehab Whether awareness has been lingering or it’s newly obvious that too many problems in your life stem from alcohol (or other drugs), the start of a new year often signals time for a change and deciding how to go about it. Typically, people decide to make a change when the costs of “using” (hangovers, fender benders, anger management issues, forgetfulness, lost work days) outweigh the benefits (getting a buzz, mental escape, temporary anxiety and stress management.

The TRUE Christian Alternative to 12-Step & Recovery Programs - Part Two (Following Jesus Christ)

This is PART TWO of the introduction to The Battle Plan, titled, "The True Christian Alternative to 12-Step/Recovery Programs". This is not from the book titled Twelve Steps To Destruction, by Dr. Martin and Deidre Bobgan. However, I still highly recommend that you read this book and I will get back to commenting on it later. You can read this book for free online at: http://www.psychoheresy-aware.org/e-books/12steps-ebk.pdf. The Bible says...

Facts are facts!

This is the graph from AA's own triennial surveys that measures the % of those coming to AA within the first year that have remained the indicated number of months.

As you can see, the graph begins at the end of the first month, where only 19% remain. That means that 81% have already dropped out before the end of the first month.

AA simply dismisses anyone who didn't make it a month as irrelevant.

Adopting AA's isms.

AA turned me into a worthless, needy, incapable piece of crap. Sure… There were people in AA that said, “I can help you with your drinking problem, but I can’t help you with your personal problems.” Looking back, I wish that I had never become dependent on any of those people. But I did become dependent. I looked to AA to help me with various problems I was having, associated with addiction… mostly emotional problems. It seems I turned to AA every time I had a feeling that made me uncomfortable. AA encourages this, no matter what some of them say.

Name that God quiz

I found this site many years ago and spent quite a few hours (most at work...lol) flipping through it. There's a lot of interesting stuff on here. I remembered there was a God quiz and thought it might be fun to try it out here. Have a go - spot the God. The answer is on a link at the bottom of the quiz http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/godquiz.htm

Meanwhile in Detroit, Novi District Judge Brian MacKenzie is getting heat over alleged testing for profit and mandating AA in General Service Area 33

Novi judge denies conflict over ties to testing firms 11:35 AM, December 30, 2013 By John Wisely and L.L. Brasier Novi District Judge Brian MacKenzie is known for his get-tough brand of justice, ordering those who appear before him to undergo months of daily drug and alcohol testing and use interlock devices on their cars. His court offers the thousands of defendants who pass through annually a list of suggested local testing facilities and interlock vendors, which are privately owned businesses.

I tried this once before, I will try it again.

I will never respond to a Jim Battle Post again, I will never change my mind. Once again, this is the only way to get rid of this person. Try it, it works. Commit your self to this simple way to get rid of jim battle. This is really how I got sober and stayed sober for over 43 years. I will never drink again, I will never change my mind. You don't need a jim battle's jesus christ to stay sober. All you need to do is.... I will never drink again, I will never change my mind. Thats it. Thats all there is to it. Soberman last drink 02/22/1970 I erased the fucking......

Why I Hate Alcoholics Anonymous _ let me count the ways...

The post about Chuck C testifying in front of a sub committee meeting really got to me... so here I am blogging ... It made me so mad again! Damn it ... I hate AA because I was brainwashed at 18 when I already stopping drinking on my own I almost left AA at 19 when my life was getting worse from AA but they told me "it got worse before it got better" I shook my head and said I thought you mean when you drank...I have been sober all this time. They were always trying to convince me I belonged there. Identify....don't compare... What about your "yets" they would say....

Buddhist Recovery Network

Ok, so I am not a Buddhist, but the writer below is and thought you might find this of some interest if you haven't seen it yet......... http://buddhistrecoveryorg.wordpress.com/ Hello world! December 1, 2008 by buddhistrecoveryorg

The TRUE Christian Alternative to 12-Step & Recovery Programs - Part One (Following Jesus Christ)

This is an introduction of "The True Christian Alternative to 12-Step/Recovery Programs". This is not from the book titled Twelve Steps To Destruction, by Dr. Martin and Deidre Bobgan. However, I still highly recommend that you read this book and I will get back to commenting on it later. You can read this book for free online: http://www.psychoheresy-aware.org/e-books/12steps-ebk.pdf "Sanctify them through Thy Truth: thy word is Truth." - Jesus Christ (John 17:17 KJV, Emphasis mine).

Arguing with an idiot

Nobody is leaving this site because of the idiot, but instead, because of us that argue with the idiot...IGNORE HIM!!!

Still waiting JimBob REPOST-TIT FOR TAT

Ever notice that JimBob will say "I'll get to that".... and then.........doesn't? So turnaround is fair play and I am reposting this and let's see what kind of nonsense comes back. You said, "I will respond to all the ranting you did about sheep, Hell, and people of other religions, (including people of the secular religion) if you "play nicely in the sandbox" Well I'm in the sandbox and at the moment the I'm only holding the cute little plastic shovel. The metal one is in the trunk at the ready.

A Happy Story

So I was watching this old video where Razor Ramon (Scott Hall) appeared on a The Jerry Springer Show featuring kids with AIDS.

Razor tells the kids that it's not how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get back up, and that if you never give up, you never lose.

I was thinking, "fuck, these kids are probably dead now." Well, I did a Google search, and found this about the girl named Hydeia:

A husbands story of the failure of Alcoholics Anonymous and Al-Anon. Why would he continue on preaching the gods of AA when it caused her death? Why would he want others to follow this path?

This is a very sad story of the death of a woman. Trying the usual path of Al-Anon where the husband was made to believe he was an alcoholic and the disease was incurable, he eventually joined AA and detached himself from his wife who eventually died of her "disease." The main question is why would the husband want to carry on with this program if it killed his wife? AA and Al-Anon obviously did him no good and ended up in a tragic death. Just remember have a safe and happy holiday season in 2013 and disassociate from the person you want to help because AA and Al-Anon tells you too.

Alcoholics Anonymous (AA): AA is a Program of Promotion

Chuck C.'s Testimony Before a U.S. Senate Subcommittee Chuck C., a well-known early AA member in California, testified before the Alcoholism and Drug Abuse Subcommittee in Los Angeles on Saturday, September 27, 1969. This is his testimony which I have copied from the official hearing records: Present: Senators Hughes, (presiding), Dominick, and Saxbe [members of the Subcommittee]. Also present: Senators Cranston and Murphy [both Senators from California]. * * * * * * * * [Page 150]

Medical Marijuana Businesses Can't Find Weed Banks

Update: “Marijuana Businesses Access to Banking Act of 2013″ proposed in Congress to ease burdens associated with providing banking services to marijuana-related businesses

Denver issues first licenses for legal retail marijuana sales

Denver issues first licenses for legal retail marijuana sales

Published December 29, 2013
FoxNews.com

Ahead of the day when Colorado residents aged 21 and older can buy marijuana for recreational use, the first batch of Denver businesses approved to sell the drug got their licenses Friday.

Colorado to become the Amsterdam of the U.S. in three days.... Jan. 1, 2014

10 things to know about nation's first recreational marijuana shops in Colorado

By Michael Martinez, CNN
updated 7:08 PM EST, Sat December 28, 2013

Denver (CNN) -- Colorado will begin allowing recreational marijuana sales on January 1 to anyone age 21 or over.

Residents will be able to buy marijuana like alcohol -- except the cannabis purchase is limited to an ounce, which is substantial enough to cost about $200 or more.

The Secular Option for Recovery(Part One)

It is my view that......... Religious faith is too personal and individual to be part of a shared set of guidelines in a recovery program that is trying to be inclusive. This and the fact that people are known to change their views and religious beliefs throughout a lifetime can only complicate a long term recovery model based on any one particular faith.

Following Christ Instead of The Steps (Part 12)

This is from the book titled Twelve Steps To Destruction, by Dr. Martin and Deidre Bobgan. You can read this book for free online: http://www.psychoheresy-aware.org/e-books/12steps-ebk.pdf "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth." (John 17:17 KJV).

Catholics the only 'real' Christians

Way back when, many moons before the gay king james bloke got his blokes to re-write the bible they way he wanted, but after it was stolen from the original blokes that re-wrote it the way they wanted, was only one church one holy 'real' catholic church run by a bloke who lives on a block called the 'vatican' I don't think he runs much stock but that's another story, anyway that phella, the pope bloke is the head honcho of all the amassed knowledge of christianity & is gods living representitive down here on earth, him & his mates studied the bible heaps more than jims mob of thieving

I'll debate :-)

As long as it's respectful or just fun. We may need a goalie though. Anyone ?

Time to post the video of Bill W. higher than a kite.

Since we have some new OPF members

Watch closely. He almost falls out of his chair.

New term of the day "affinity fraud"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affinity_fraud This is why we are seeing such an effort from our trolls. We are a direct threat to their livelihood.

Jim Battle counterfeit christian.

Jim's not interested in god, christianity is just a platform on which he stands so he can draw attention to himself, Jim's all about Jim, he dosen't give a stuff about addicted persons. Stand back a bit & check out his posts & replys, the blokes playing us, he's just a troll, a sick mentally ill troll & he's got a history of it. If he dosen't get a response he pours on petrol till he gets a flash.

RANDOM THOUGHTS, 2013.12.23: by A. Orange

It's okay for children to believe in Santa Claus. We don't have to go around disillusioning children and destroying their faith in Santa. The same does not apply to the 12-Step religion and 12-Step-based drug and alcohol rehab, however. There, we need to tell the truth, because people's lives are on the line, and fairy tales don't help them.
When a believer and a rational person talk about the truth, they are using the same word but they are talking about very different things.

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