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aa Doublespeak

Oh, such fun & games with the language of a cult! A redditorsinrecovery thread on the Penn & Teller Bullshit episode on aa caught my attention. Lol, it's an absolute treasure for aa-doublespeak: http://www.reddit.com/r/REDDITORSINRECOVERY/comments/1u9to2/penn_and_tel...

What is considered acceptable alcohol consumption in different countries? If you live in Scotland or Ireland do you drink more than is acceptable in other countries?

I think we have all heard the typical stereotypes of the hard drinking Irish or the Scottish and the problems associated with it. Especially in the US, people of Irish or Scottish decent are often labeled as someone that has a predisposition to over indulging in alcoholic spirits, especially beer.

Deprogramming 101

This is the second entry in a series for deprogramming from the adverse effects sustained from exposure to the cult of Alcoholics Anonymous and their brainwashing repetitive propoganda. (Note: In this series, I make use of AA slogans to emphasize a point. In practice, the use of slogans should always be avoided in everyday conversation.) Keep It Simple, Stupid -- Don't drink and don't go to meetings.

IMPORTANT!!! First read below. THE BIBLE and a SECULAR PSYCHOLOGIST Expose Psychotherapy (i.e. Psychological Counseling) Jesus Christ is Right Again!

Recently, I posted an article on my Orange Papers (OP) Forum blog that made someone very angry. They hated this post so much that they used their internet skills to make it impossible to read the comments. Realizing they might do the same thing to THIS post, I have place it on another blog just in case you can't read it here. The link below will take you there: Blog: http://orangepapersforumandreligion.blogspot.com/ This is my response to a post by an OPF member:

young adult / alternatives to aa / non secular and other wise

alternatives to aa / non secular and other wise

Hotter than a lake of burning fire

& the bloody goanna's on the rampage, had one poke his head in the back door this morning, the temps likely to be 40 celcius plus inside today, with the chance of massive strong wind (this arvo) like the breath of a furnace, followed by a thunderstorm & prehaps pelting hail to generally flaten the place, bloodt need it though, we're just off a drought & if relife don't come soon, we'll have to wait 12 months for the next wet.

Alcoholics Anonymous General Service Area 65 to celebrate the 67 years of AA in Tyler, Texas January 3-5, 2014

Alcoholics Anonymous will celebrate 67 years since the first meeting of AA was held in Tyler 18 hours ago This weekend Alcoholics Anonymous will celebrate 67 years since the first meeting of AA was held in Tyler. Over 700 people will gather at Harvey Hall to rejoice in their recovery and share their experience, strength and hope with others that suffer from alcoholism and those that love them. This in an open event and everyone is welcome to attend.

Tips for Homeless People

ChefBoyardee, Progresso Soups, and Dinty Moore beef stew are all available with pop-top cans, so you don't need a can opener. If you have any money you can probably rent a small storage unit for around $25.00 a month. This is a good place to store equipment and food. You will need shelter... Scout the area you plan on squatting on for bridges, abandoned pipes, and perhaps a place to pitch a tent, if you have the money to buy one.

IMPORTANT!!! First read below. A WICKED AGENDA IN THE ORANGE PAPERS COMMUNITY! (My Response to One Member)

Recently, I posted an article on my Orange Papers (OP) Forum blog that made someone very angry. They hated this post so much that they used their internet skills to make it impossible to read the comments. Realizing they might do the same thing to THIS post, I have place it on another blog just in case you can't read it here. The link below will take you there: Blog: http://orangepapersforumandreligion.blogspot.com/ Hi, NoAAUK,

Deprogramming 101

This is the first entry in a series for deprogramming from the adverse effects sustained from exposure to the cult of Alcoholics Anonymous and their brainwashing repetitive propoganda. (Note: In this series, I make use of AA slogans to emphasize a point. In practice, the use of slogans should always be avoided in everyday conversation.) First Things First -- Leave AA.

How has this 12 step oxford group nonsense dominated substance abuse treatment?

Steppism appears to be an international problem, there are Americans, British, Australians and others on this forum and people write to the Orange Papers from all over the world. I keep a copy of the Big Book and 12 x 12 for reference purposes but now I find myself wondering how did this oxford group cult mumbo jumbo come to so dominate the substance abuse treatment industry?

Important!!! Read what I say and listen very carefully.

"Don't trust anyone else on this forum because they are bigots. However I do like it here, even though no other forum members comment positively to my posts. In fact, all other OPF members are intolerant and hateful. They are wrong and I am right. Now that most of them are ignoring me I'm more desperate than ever before for some attention. This is why I keep trying to initiate an argument with them by pushing into discussions that aren't about me." ~Paraphrase of the one and lonely. .................

IMPORTANT!!! First read below. ALL RECOVERY & TREATMENT PROGRAMS ARE RELIGIOUS! (Explained)

Yesterday, I posted an article on my Orange Papers (OP) Forum blog that made someone very angry. They hated this post so much that they used their internet skills to make it impossible to read the comments. Realizing they might do the same thing to THIS post, I decided to place it on another blog just in case you can't read it here. The link below will take you there: Blog: http://orangepapersforumandreligion.blogspot.com/

Is Your New Year’s Resolution to Leave AA?

Many people resolve to stop drinking for the start of a new year. It is said that this is the time of year when droves of new people unwittingly flock to the awaiting tables of AA and other 12-step flocks. Yet, what about the flip side of this coin? After this busy season, I wonder if we also see a rise in people leaving AA as their New Year's Resolution. I’d bet that we do.

The Return of Classic Rock

December 2013 / January 2014 Issue
From Rob Ford's startling admission to Lamar Odom's made-for-reality-TV drama (and let's not forget that Girls episode), it seems crack is back—and in some very high places. Yesteryear's killer drug is now a dalliance for affluent, upwardly mobile types, some too young to recall its devastating history.
By Kevin Gray

A discussion of a “God as we understand Him”

"Religion has been made for man by others, communicated to him by tradition, determined for him by fixed forms, by imitation and retained by habit. Let us go back in time to the first cause. We are now looking at the first thing that a ‘Devine Agency,’ a God as we understand him” has just created. Now let’s go back just before this first thing was created. You are now looking at the creator just before he created His first thing. Imagine that you are to give an account of this agency by giving details of its identifying nature.

The Stepper cult will continue with its lies and deceptive recruiting

I knew something was drastically wrong with the stepper cult towards the end of my time with these people, but it was not until I read the Orange Papers that I could see clearly and the penny finally dropped, its just a cult, when all is said and done. I also followed Stinkin Thinkin, More Revealed, AA Deprogramming and other Websites and videos, I particularly like Godlessweasels videos. But to me the Orange Papers will always be the premier Anti Stepper Cult site and the Orange Papers Forum will be the premier Anti Stepper Cult Forum.

Food for thought ~ What would Bill and Dr Bob have come up with to handle AA apostates on forums like this?

Thank God for the internet so that people can go and explore and find things out for themselves instead of just accepting the hand fed garbage dished up meeting after meeting by older AA members!! They make out like they have ALL the answers and honestly expect you to just accept everything that is read or quoted or said to you without question!

church of Satan

Sounds like my kind of church, does anyone know if they start fights, wreck pubs & bait police, 'cos I'll convert.

Piss on the forum

The link to satan church is pretty funny, but it's not a good thing, much as that prattling preacher cunt deserves it, it's not a fair, proper reasonable thing, it's not fair to other forum members. Jim has the right to post without defacement, no matter how far off the ball he is.

Gabrielle Glaser author of "Her Best-Kept Secret" publishes "Cold Turkey Isn’t the Only Route" on the New York Times and how Alcoholics Anonymous started the abstinence model.

Cold Turkey Isn’t the Only Route By GABRIELLE GLASER Published: January 1, 2014 THIS New Year’s, a good number of those who struggle to control their drinking will resolve to abstain from alcohol. No halfway measures. Quitting is the only way. The cold-turkey approach is deeply rooted in the United States, embraced by doctors, the multibillion-dollar treatment industry and popular culture. For nearly 80 years, our approach to drinking problems has been inspired by the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anonymous.

The New Year is Starting Well

The “Big Bills” staying sober in a Cave

Submitted by Sober man on Mon, 01/14/2013 - 19:13 The “Big Bills” staying sober in a Cave Part 1: Sober man: Compare AA in respect of education and its lack to such an experience as this. Sober man: Picture the AA meeting of Big Bills dwelling in a sort of underground large cave with a long entrance open to the light on its entire width. Sober man: Conceive AA members as having their legs and necks fastened to their ankles or feet, so that they remain in the same spot, able to look forward only, and prevented by the restraints from turning their heads.

Lies, Damn Lies and Drug Statistics: Treatment Version

Maia Szalavitz
Posted: 12/15/08 03:38 PM ET
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szalavitz/lies-damn-lies-and-drug-s_b_1...

When Minnesota Teen Challenge (MNTC) responded to my recent blog entry about their anti-drug program, they cited a "study" to back their claims of being an effective treatment for addiction.

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