The Pretender

Funny what you read on the internet! I was looking up the song meaning for: “Brass in Pocket” by the Pretenders and found this tidbit on
Saw them on an interview where they said it was about the guitarist's new baby girl. It is about her and the feelings he got from this blessing Brass? According to him it was a reference to his new found sobriety, (about 2 years at the time). Which gave him his ability to produce (was diagnosed with weak sperm while drinking). -

Gentlemen (and ladies) , start your engines.....Today on the

The Role of Spirituality within the 12 Steps In an age of scientific empiricism, can a quasi-religious organization be the number one go-to option for people suffering the medically diagnosable disease of alcoholism? ....... Check it out and when the AA groupies chime in, let's have a go at them shall we?

Ran into my sponsor...

No one really knows I left AA. They are aware that I haven't been to the regular meetings, but I have also chosen to work, call me crazy but I just find my work far more fulfilling and rewarding. So, I heard my name called at the store I was working in and there was my sponsor. She gave me a hug and asked how I've been, I said GREAT! I told her I put in my notice at the store and will be taking over my new job in managing in marketing...the kids are great.

Good People

(Almost forgot to address this* oops)


You may not have said that exactly, but you want to condemn others of faith as evildoers if they don’t “listen” and “see” as you do.

A Christian’s faith is between the individual and Jesus; you don't enter into the equation and neither does Orange. Orange knows this. Do you?

A Very Important Email From Orange to Jim Battle

I have been granted permission by Orange (the owner of this forum) to quote a few things he said to me in an email. I will make a comment after each quote. Orange said: "Now, in defense of Christianity, there has actually been very little of it taught, in recovery, or out of recovery. Too much of what passes for Christianity is really just Fascism in disguise. Don't think for yourself, just believe and obey. And hate the "others"."

Why Some OPF Members Don't Want Christianity Presented As An Alternative To AA

Up until now, I thought that those on this forum who didn't want Christianity to be presented as an alternative to AA were just A-theists, but that's not really the case. They are ANTI-theists.


Federal Court: Provide a Secular Option, Or Else Counselor Connection Bonus Content/Counselor Connection Newsletter Barry Hazle is an atheist who, as a condition of parole, was forced to participate in a residential drug treatment program that required him to acknowledge a “higher power.” When he resisted, California state authorities pulled him out of the program, arrested him, revoked his parole, and sent him back to prison for an additional 100 days.

Games People Play

There is a book written by “Eric Berne’ called Games People Play. We now have a game started by Jim Battle called “Alcoholic Anonymous ain’t it awful” When you respond to this game you have become a player. I will not play or become a part of this game; I will never change my mind. If you have not read this book then you should. Sober man I will never play this game; I will never change my mind. Those of you who cannot stop: good luck. ps: Jim Battle is a pro at playing this game.

Following Christ Instead of The Steps (Part 3)

This is a commentary on the book titled Twelve Steps To Destruction, by Dr. Martin and Deidre Bobgan. You can read this book for free online: TWELVE-STEP RELIGIONS (Part 1) "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of POWER, and of LOVE, and of a SOUND MIND." (2Ti 1:7 KJV)

AA and The Lords Prayer- Oh Lordy!

Hey guys this just was on the FIX yesterday and I thought it might interest many of you. An interesting story of a Jewish AA member taking issue with the Lords Prayer at the end of an AA meeting. Pretty good article that I am sure many can relate too. Oh Lordy! This wandering Jew tried to persuade an AA group to substitute something non-denominational for their Christian prayer. I failed. But I didn’t drink afterwards. By Neville Flance 12/08/13

A Memo from Santa Claus (very important)

I regret to inform you that, effective immediately, I will no longer be able to serve the Southern United States on Christmas Eve. Due to the overwhelming current population of the earth, my contract was renegotiated by North American Fairies and Elves Local 209. I now serve only certain areas of Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin and Michigan. As part of the new and better contract I also get longer breaks for milk and cookies so keep that in mind. However, I'm certain that your children will be in good hands with your local replacement who happens to

Hey, Lurkers!

I feel like saying something to you. This forum used to be a great way to get resources about getting your shit together and whatnot, but, now, it is not. Orange has put some useful information on his regular page, and, if you are interested in a certain poster (J.R., for instance, is another great researcher), you can click on the track button and see what else that poster has contributed. I don't know if I'll be coming here too much more, and I wouldn't feel right leaving without offering my perspective. Bear in mind that it's just my perspective and nothing more.

The Holy Bible

Soberman I don’t drink, I do as I please?

Real "christian" of you, Jim/Becket/Danny/Clara

Everyone PLEASE send a message to Orange. Seriously. Orange would want you to express your disgust. Let's get this JERK OUT OF HERE!! Real 'Christian' of you, Jim. [edited to take the cuss-words out.]

A Christmas Song for all to sing...

to the tune of "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" by Santa Rainbow Oh, I finally walked out And soon you will too I ain't goin' back A.A. can get screwed! Massive's film is coming to town! I'm happy today My life is sure nice A.A. will implode They'll all pay the price! Massive's film is coming to town! I'm throwin' out my Big Books They're going in the trash I'll work thru my resentments Then - A.A. can kiss my ass! HEY!! I finally walked out And soon you will too We'll never go back A. A. can get screwed!

Jim Battle

I will never read or respond to a jimbattle post again, I will never change my mind? Come and join me. Soberman I will never drink again, I will never change my mind?

Following Christ Instead of The Steps (Part 2)

This is a commentary on the book titled Twelve Steps To Destruction, by Dr. Martin and Deidre Bobgan. You can read this book for free online: TWELVE-STEP PROGRAMS: SIN OR SICKNESS? (Part 2) "Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that THE POWER OF CHRIST may rest upon me." (2Co 12:9b KJV)

Nobody is as stupid as Jim.

It's just not possible, nobody could be that far off track, that full of themselves, that full of it. The mans a troll, a real troll, a real christian troll, a real christian preacher troll, he knows damn well what he's doing, no excuse, christianity is what he hides behind.

Monday Madness/Santa jokes & others

Little Boy: Santa, Santa send me a baby brother. Santa: OK send me your mother.

Following Christ Instead of The Steps (Part 1)

This is a commentary on the book titled Twelve Steps To Destruction, by Dr. Martin and Deidre Bobgan. You can read this book for free online: TWELVE-STEP PROGRAMS: SIN OR SICKNESS? "Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful." (Proverbs 27:6 KJV) In chapter four, the authors point out that the word "alcoholic" is a convenient euphemism for the word

New Trailer for The 13the Step the film Launching this week!

Hi. I'm so excited. I have a new trailer with lots of new footage that I am releasing this week. The one I will release here is longer for you all to see what I have done with the money I raised on Indie gogo. I spent the day on a stage in Venice, CA filming some of the finest VO actors in Hollywood reading public posts written on my stop 13 step in aa blog from way back when till recently. It was mind blowing to hear these actors speak your works ...OMG the insanity that is going on in AA it abominable!!!

Good Questions About The Post Titled "Christianity ALWAYS Works for True Christians" "

This is my reply to an email I received from someone questioning my post titled "Christianity ALWAYS Works for True Christians":

Anti Christian

This forum has gotten to anti Christian/religion for me. Except for former member JIF, thankfully now in the distant past, it was never too bad in here. Expressing a distaste for religion has occurred regularly before, even Christianity, but it was mostly applicable to Steppism. I understood that to be normal and acceptable here and wasn't slighted by it. Lately I have been though. I personally blame JB for that because of his recent displays of "true" Christian Evangelizing. Although not occurring too often, he even ignored the polite requests to cool down.

Christian Hypocrites

The Jim Battle's Post

I Soberman, starting now will never respond to another Blog by Jim Battle, I will never change my mind. Come and join me. I will never read them, I will never change my mind. Soberman


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