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An old Christmas favorite!

Billy boy
Billy boy
Billy boy rock
Helyn Wynn shag like dogs on the block
Dancing and prancing around the square
In his Billy boy underwear

Watch out girls for that Billy boy rock
Billy boy sperm's got Billy boy germs
Don't be Bill's schlepper
Or your kid will be a stepper
From the Billy boy rock.

What's Happening at The Grove?

I don't know, but most of the comments on The Fix have been deleted! LOL!

Looks like I was wrong.

Apologies to Monica Richardson. Looks like she's really getting things done.

Muck & Fuddy

The Sober Truth CBS 48 Hours


Hello, I am your Disease

I Hate meetings...I Hate higher powers...I Hate anyone who has a program. To all who come in contact with me, I wish you death and I wish you suffering.

Allow me to introduce myself, I am the disease of addiction. I Am cunning, baffling, and powerful. That's Me. I have killed millions and I am pleased.

What Happened?

Many of us were worried.

Describe God According to AA Doctrine

Well... He is obviously a man. He's invisible. You have to trust him in order for him to work on your behalf. He is the father of light, which is a biblical reference.

LDS adopts 12 Step Program

Orange hasn't been around in a while.

Hope he's okay.

Alcoholics Anonymous Slogans

This Should be Interesting...

Are These Threats?

I'm being followed around the web by someone who goes by the handles Alkieanon, NahantSailor, and now Emma Knutt on this forum.

For your information... My name is Todd and I live in Franklin Massachusetts. This person has my personal information and has been making veiled threats for months.

I've reported the incidents to Orange and I hope that he will take care of the problem soon.

Here are some screen shots of the threats...

AA caused me to drink more.

I can't count the times I cracked another beer and said to myself, "I'm powerless over this disease and so I might as well go with the flow and drink."

I wonder how many people there are out there who never may find the information contained in the Orange-Papers or other sources of such information. I'll bet there are alot of them.

I must remain teachable?

What does that even mean?

Alcohol Problem?

Just go to AA, turn your life and will over to God, and everything will be okay.

It's not a cult! I swear!

Here are the 12 steps you must follow otherwise your only options are jails, institutions, or death...

Serenity... Sung to the tune of Me and Bobby McGee

Busted with a case of booze
Driving down the street
Feeling just as helpless as I could
My lawyer said that maybe I
Should head out to AA
The judge was gonna tell me that I should
I got a little drunk
And I missed a couple meetings
And I worked the program
Just the best I could.
Half measures availed me not
I gave the program all I got
I gave that program everything I could

Mission Statement?

"The reason for the existence of the forum is to make it possible for people to help each other to get over both alcohol abuse and cult religion. Anything that defeats that purpose is counter-productive, and can hurt people, and that can't go on." ~Orange

Is Nothing Sacred?... Alcoholics Anonymous

Here is a photo of Robin Williams at an AA meeting.

Bill W. schizophrenia?

I once suffered from alcoholism, but people are not so wise to the fact that I suffer also from schizophrenia, split personality. I have a personality say as a patriarch of A.A., founding father, if you like, and I also have a personality as an A.A. member and between these personalities is a terrific gulf.

Anti AA movement?

That term makes us look like a bunch of idiots.


Originally designed to make money for the founders, AA's self perpetuating mind trap chugs on.

It won't be long before it's gone though.

The Killing

The Killing is a crime drama series originally produced by AMC and later picked up by Netflix which produced the final six episode season. The show went on for four seasons, and was THE BEST series I've ever seen. I was, however, disappointed with the very last episode where one of the main characters recovers from addiction through Narcotics Anonymous and the 12 steps. You can see some of Netflix' portrayal of 12 step programs at 46:40 of this video.

SMART Recovery Website Hacked?

From the SMART Recovery website...

The Jesus Fish 500

Since people are reposting I figured I'd post my story again. It's all about me me me! lol! When I was a kid I got the shit kicked out of me a couple of times a week. My mom would make me strip naked and she’d beat me with a plastic belt. She’s tell me that I was getting nine lashes and, “You little bastard, if you even move an inch or make a single peep I’ll cut your balls off and give you another three lashes.”


Hi folks. Just wanted to let you know that if you are participating at you are posting on a website that was stolen from me and a few other contributors. As a team we organized and we wrote all of the information on the website. We also paid for a two year contract with the web template host. The cost was almost $300.00 How can this be possible?


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