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Woman arrested for harassment at Kent AA meeting

By STEVE HUNTER Kent Reporter Courts, government reporter January 26, 2012 · 12:21 PM Kent Police arrested a woman for investigation of harassment after she reportedly interrupted an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting Jan. 17 in the 300 block of Third Avenue South. An officer heard a female yelling from just south of the Kent Police Station and went with another officer to investigate, according to the police report.

The Twelve Biggest Secrets of Alcoholics Anonymous

I thought I'd start discussions on this "chapter" of the Orange Papers. Since we've been disussing different aspects of this recently I won't go in order that Orange has them listed. "A.A. flat-out lies when it says it is a program of rigorous honesty; it is just the opposite — a program of rigorous dishonesty": http://orange-papers.org/orange-secrets.html

Lord's Prayer

I don't want to appear as if I was am not supportive of other views concerning religion or God(s) or a higher power. Deep down, I don't think it matters unless someone is being hurt as a direct result of your belief. That was how I was brought up and that is what I still think today.

Tatum [O'Neal] is refusing to embrace the 12 step AA model to get sober.

Tatum O' Neal 'voluntarily returns to rehab after cocaine relapse' "Tatum allegedly made the decision to voluntarily check into rehab after having a relapse about a month ago when she began using cocaine again,' a source told Radaronline. However, Tatum is at a rehab facility that doesn't follow the 12 step AA model, which doesn't bode well for her success, according to the source.

Clear your conscience and move forward

Here is an interesting story about a young man (David H. McCarthy, 27) of Naperville, IL who after working his 9th step, was arrested for the 2008 hit and run death of a young women (Melissa Lech, 20). Many will look at this situation and notice that justice was rightfully done, and finally. However the writer goes deep into the notion that although Mr. McCarthy did the right thing by confessing, he did it for the wrong reasons. He confessed only to clear his conscious of his horrible deed so that he can move forward with his own life. He was not apologetic to the victim's family:

The Difference Between Ice Cream and Crack

Your Brain Doesn’t Know the Difference Between Ice Cream and Crack We all joke about being addicted to dessert or salt or various other vices, but in the case of ice cream, one new study has shown that it actually does share some characteristics with drugs. It sets off the pleasure centers of our brain in the same way, but it's also now clear that when you eat a lot of ice cream, you become desensitized to its pleasures—just like you do with drugs, or so I have heard.

Karen Lee Burger is still missing.

Karen Lee Burger went missing last July in Florida. As it turns out, her Father reported that his last during hi contact with her she told him she was going to get together with a man that she met at an AA meeting. I just want to remind anyone that cares that she is still missing and that it has also been reported that her daughter, SIL, and grandson are missing as well.

Comment remvoed as I said I would do.

Comment remvoed as I said I would do.

Alcoholism is not a Disease

Here is a rather long article on the disease theory but it's a good read: Submitted by Baldwin Research Institute Fri 01/27/2006. Addiction Info. "In 1976, the writer Ivan Illich warned in a book, Limits to Medicine, that 'the medical establishment has become a major threat to health'. At the time, he was dismissed as a maverick, but a quarter of a century later, even the medical establishment is prepared to admit that he may well be right. (Anthony Browne, April 14, 2002, the Observer)"

Contrasts between the Salvation Army and AA

AA and the Salvation Army have had strong ties since the early days of AA’s founding. The SA is known for its strong Christian roots and began in the later 1800’s by an evangelical minister named William Booth. Booth’s first Christian converts were thieves, prostitutes, and drunks. He promised them salvation through Christ and gave hope to those in the most need.

I have an idea...

In each place that the word God is printed in the big book, let's insert the word "Allah" instead. Also, a more minor chage for meetings. Instead of closing with the Lord's Prayer (Catholic version), close with a Salat (traditional prayer of the muslim faith). How many would join this group and claim it is spiritual and not religious?

Why I haven't been around

Besides some initial physical illness, I found that the more I blogged and read, researched, and wrote letters, the more depressed I came. I decided to take an extended break. Occasionally I do check back in and read a bit but I start to get angry again nearly right away. It is definitely a struggle because I think that if former members don't fight for what we think is important, things in the so called "recovery world" won't change. Being new at sobriety is a difficult time anyway. Adding the weight of a fight has stopped helping me and has caused me more frustration.

Hey gang and happy holidays, happy new year!

Hope you're all well and I also want to wish all of you a happy and very safe holiday. I hope to catch up, if it's possible. ~Avo

First large-scale study to address treatment of prescription opioid addiction

I think it was here on OPF but recently someone posted a desire to be involved in a study about opiod dependence. I just came across this article this morning, and they have studied prescription pain killer addicts. Participants were treated for free with Buprenorphine and counseling. This study is already complete but according to the article they indicate the need to do more. If you want to be a part of a long term study (free treatment perhaps), I'd contact them: Roger Weiss, MD, Chief of the Division of Alcohol and Drug Abuse at McLean Hospital

13 Stepping

grampahaas recently posted about witnessing a young woman getting taken advantage of AA. In response to that I want to share an "article" I just wrote on the same topic: (much of the formatting was removed in the copy/past transfer) The 13th Step and Related Crime in Alcoholics Anonymous

If you’re addicted to religion, God, or even AA....

Episcopalian Priest, Father Leo Booth might have an answer for you. He is a a recovered alcoholic, co-dependent, religious addict and spiritual abuser, and author of: When God Becomes a Drug. Some Symptoms of Religious Addiction: 1. Inability to think, doubt, or question information or authority 2. Black-and-white, simplistic thinking 3. Shame-based belief that you aren't good enough, or you aren't "doing it right" 4. Magical thinking that God will fix you 5. Compulsive praying, going to church or crusades, quoting scripture

ST Blog Closed

For those that are wondering about the blog Stinkin Thinkin, here is link that might answer your questions. http://goodbye.stinkin-thinkin.com/#comment-26 I regularly posted there and will miss it. Best to all, avogadno (Sally)

OXFORD GROUP MOVEMENT SENSATION

AMAZING Evangelism; IT’S RISE Coming To Vancouver The Vancouver Sun – November 19th, 1932 http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=aC5lAAAAIBAJ&sjid=z4gNAAAAIBAJ&pg=1... “The Oxford Group party is coming to Vancouver in January. [The] Oxford Group is difficult to define. Even its non-descriptive name makes writing or telling about it difficult. ‘Oxford Group Thought’ is about the best term its own members so far found.

SMART Recovery

SWFAS introduces 'Smart Recovery' self-help program October 4, 2011 – Naplesnews.com http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2011/oct/04/swfas-introduces-smart-recove... “A new self-help recovery program that is the first of its kind in Southwest Florida is being introduced by Southwest Florida Addiction Services (SWFAS) for individuals with addictive disorders of all types.

Doctor Hits Oxford Group. -The Vancoucer Sun - Dec. 29th, 1932

This is an old article criticizing the Oxford Group. I couldn’t find reference to this article in the Orange Papers and thought I would share it here. I thought it very interesting that an M.D. in the 1930’s wrote about the principles of the Oxford Group as being negative. With the similarities that those principles have with AA principles, I wonder AGAIN why there are so many professionals that agree with this kind of therapy (AA) now.

Compliments of Marietta

Man gets 5 years in prison for Ponzi scheme Sep. 17, 2011 http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20110917/NEWS01/109170392/Man-gets-5-y... "Richard Horace Mayfield was sentenced Friday to five years in prison after being convicted of running a Ponzi scheme for more than 20 years.

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