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Heroin Addict Sentenced Differently....Not AA

An Ohio judge that sentenced a 30 year old woman to receive a shot of Vivitrol each month instead of jail time. Vivitrol is an opiate-blocking medication that reduces cravings and causes precipitated withdraw if an opiate is used.

Any thoughts about this? Certainly better than 12 Step groups or a 12 Step Rehab but it is forcing a medication on a person.

I haven't seen many news articles about this kind of sentencing but I'm thinking that research into this would be interesting.

Road Less Traveled author Peck, AA thoughts

Not too long ago a post of mine mentioned Peck and a few members here who had been a "fan" of his were discouraged by his AA interests.

I just came across an interview Peck had with Playboy Magazine, 1991. The q&a was about Alcoholics Anonymous.

Here are the few relative paragraphs:

" Playboy: You've said that the success of "The Road Less Traveled" is connected to the proliferation of groups such as A.A. Why are A.A. and its offshoots so popular?

Narcotics Anonymous

Hi Everyone,

After coming across a random discussion about geographic changes being bad for "recovery", I recalled that this reference was from NA.

"Some uf us sought spiritual guidance through churches, different religions, meditation and cultism. Some of us sought cure by geographical change, blaming our surroundings and living situations for our problem. This attempt just gave us new people to take advantage of" ~NA Basic Text

Justice Allows Prayer at Government Meetings

Just today the Supreme Court gave limited approval for prayer to be conducted in New York town board meetings.

Very odd and I'm surprised by this ruling. Supreme Court? Prayer is OK? What's going on in this country....

The profit behind 12-step treatment

May 3rd, 2014
Bain Capital's grip on addiction--The profit behind 12-step treatment
by Jamie Wendland

This article is 3 pages long and I've only posted the first page here. Use the link for the rest.

AA Keeping Safe

An anonymous member in Washington explains how the group tries to keep members safe from predators. Specifically a 13 year old girl.

Did they notify AA? Yes
Did the GSO or AAWS intervene? No.
The group was told to handle it at their discretion. So.....
Did anyone from the group call the police? No!

As we all know there aren't any safety procedures set or guidelines to follow. If other members don't see or aren't watchful, or if there isn't an alert “old-timer" member that cares enough to step in, the predators continue to victimize.

Alcoholics Anonymous' Online Store


Alcoholics Anonymous' Online Store

Although I only go to the aa.org occasionally to track down a quote or something, I thought I new what they were up to at least mainstream. I didn't know they had an online store/website.

AAWS Highlights

The Anonymous People

Documentary on the "disease" and "recovery" movement.

Has anyone seen this?

Can it be found online anywhere?

Here is a link to the Trailer

RIP my friend passed 3 years ago.

I wasn't thinking about posting it but somehow I want to now.

Grand Opening Invitation - SoberLifeStyle


I got an email from this place (appears out of the blue) and wonder if anyone knows about this "program".

"We are pleased to announce the Grand Opening of:
www.soberlifestyle.org, the ultimate website for all your recovery needs!

Heroin mix takes more than 80 lives in recent weeks

POINT PLEASANT, N.J. -- On an icy night last month, a man entered a grocery store here, walked past the displays of cake mix and paper towels, and went into the bathroom, where he injected himself with heroin.

Hours later, the man was found dead in the bathroom with a needle still in his arm, authorities said. They believe the man was one of more than 80 people across the country who have died in recent weeks after injecting heroin laced with fentanyl, a powerful synthetic opiate.

Help please from anyone knowledgeable about Suboxone

Hey Ya'all.

I've been on Suboxone a while now and have had support from some very kind people regarding it. I've also learned a lot, some from trial and error as well as research.

I have a specific question that I cannot determine from any med site. *I do not want to do this by trial and error atm, lol. If I jump off from 6mg to none, is it a definite that I will go into wd?

I'd like to propose a peace treaty

I'd like to propose a peace treaty in an attempt to have civil discussions and allow for new people to join the board without discomfort. This is getting everyone involved nowhere, except further angry. For those not involved, this is just pitiful and tiresome. Understandably.

AA is for Morons

"Don’t let what your dad says about your jaundiced, estranged uncle Charlie fool you: AA is for morons.

According to your family, the AA program saved Uncle Charlie’s life. It did! Then it turned him into God-fearing, powerless retard who sits in a church basement and spews unscientific bullshit like “Everything happens for a reason”; “I believe the Big Book was inspired by God”; and my favorite: “My disease has been doing pushups.”

Important!!! Read what I say and listen very carefully.

"Don't trust anyone else on this forum because they are bigots. However I do like it here, even though no other forum members comment positively to my posts. In fact, all other OPF members are intolerant and hateful. They are wrong and I am right.

Now that most of them are ignoring me I'm more desperate than ever before for some attention. This is why I keep trying to initiate an argument with them by pushing into discussions that aren't about me." ~Paraphrase of the one and lonely.

I'll debate :-)

As long as it's respectful or just fun. We may need a goalie though.

Anyone ?

A very Happy Holiday to all of you!

I'll be away the next few days but want to extend my wishes to all of you for a healthy, happy, peaceful, and loving Christmas.

Thanks to all of you for just being here and giving me a chance to learn, find support and offer support as well. For the most part it's fun, and a pleasant place to have a voice.

Abuse and Neglect in USA Residential Treatment Centers

Medical Whistleblower


They also have a radio show:

Founder, Dr. Janet L. Parker, DVM, also wrote 327 pages about Abuse and Neglect in USA Residential Treatment Centers

"I prayed for a parking space"

Nurse Jackie, played be Edie Falco (nurse and former drug addict), goes to a meeting. Watching it live I was cracking up..

I don't know how to post clips of videos. Sorry. Just forward video to about 25 seconds if you want to watch the scene.


Good People

(Almost forgot to address this* oops)


You may not have said that exactly, but you want to condemn others of faith as evildoers if they don’t “listen” and “see” as you do.

A Christian’s faith is between the individual and Jesus; you don't enter into the equation and neither does Orange. Orange knows this. Do you?

Anti Christian

This forum has gotten to anti Christian/religion for me. Except for former member JIF, thankfully now in the distant past, it was never too bad in here. Expressing a distaste for religion has occurred regularly before, even Christianity, but it was mostly applicable to Steppism. I understood that to be normal and acceptable here and wasn't slighted by it. Lately I have been though. I personally blame JB for that because of his recent displays of "true" Christian Evangelizing. Although not occurring too often, he even ignored the polite requests to cool down.


Anyone can change any poll. The comments cannot be changed as far as I know. Give it a whirl everyone. Click on the poll and click edit. It should work.

I think the setting in the program concerning polls needs to be changed.

You know you are brainwashed when.............

You know you are brainwashed when ... (fill in the blank).

I actually didn't know but I should have known that I was brainwashed. when I contemplated my "alcohol problem".

I hadn't had more than a dozen or so total drinks in over 10 years (I was involved with the programs of NA/NA because of an opiate addiction). However, I was practically convinced that I was also an alcoholic and feared that if I didn't attend meetings I would become a drunk. As silly as it sounds, I was really really worried that I would be overcome by powerlessness and start drinking uncontrollably.

Alcoholics Victorious

Spin off of AA that recognizes Jesus Christ as there Higher Power.

I don't know much about this program at all, besides what they put on their website. I've learned not to trust mission statements though.

I'm wondering, any inside information about this model for Christians?

Other thoughts about it?

Spiritual Abuse

The below are snip-its from an article I found on the web. I don’t necessarily agree with all of it but I found it interesting. I added the pictures.

The POV is directed at Christians that are spiritually abusive. I think much of it can be applied to AA sponsors.

What is Spiritual Abuse


Happy Birthday Bill W.

I hope you are rolling around in your grave at the near 6 million hits!

Best quote about Bill from a stepper:
"I wish Bill Wilson was alive. He would have the moral authority to put an end to 13 stepping."

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