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IMPORTANT!!! First read below! - To Hell and Back!

Watch the short video stories of two former atheists who believe they died and went to Hell. Both of these men are doctors with PhDs. One is an "alcoholic" physician who partied with famous people like Ringo Starr of The Beetles and Hoyt Axton. Clink this link to watch "To Hell and Back" - http://the-gospel-made-plain.blogspot.com/

IMPORTANT!!! First read below! - The Scientific Case for the Existence of God! (What Some OPF Members Don't Want You to Know)

A few months ago, I noticed that some OPF members were doing something very strange. The reason that I am not going to tell you about it on this blog is because, from time to time, someone uses their internet skills to make it impossible open the comments and read them. Realizing they might do the same thing to THIS post, I have place it on another blog. The link below will take you there:

New Blog: http://orangepapersforumandreligion.blogspot.com/

The God thing

Some may say this subject is not relevant to substance misuse and I would tend to agree with them, particularly Atheists, except that a certain 1930's cult, which likes to scare its victims with woffle about their version of God and their version spiritual things in general (as opposed to actually discussing any real strategies for substance misuse control ) This cult of steppism appears to have been allowed to dominate the substance misuse sector in the developed west.

What OPF Want You to Know about God. and Alcohol addiction

1. By God we mean that which is all loving, all knowing, all powerful.
2. A God who is all loving, all knowing, all powerful would want to eliminate alcoholism.
3. Alcoholism continues to exist
4. Therefore a God who is all loving, all knowing, all powerful does not.

Soberman

My big plan: I will never drink/smoke again, I will never change my mind.

Is AA’s stance on powerlessness religious in nature? Read the following and you decide.

Good morning folks, just a little more proof that AA’s stance on powerlessness is completely religious in nature and originates from Christian thought and beliefs.
These are from the thoughts of Ludwig Feuerbach which I came across while actually reading about Friedrich Nietzsche; What Nietzsche Really Said, by Robert C. Solomon and Kathleen M. Higgins. From pages 86-87;

What is the best way to expose the Stepper cult?

In fighting and name calling is not the way to expose this cult. But what is?

Medium Picks up Hitchhiking Ghost of BillW⑬™

(The Ghosts of Christmas Déjà Vu obtained this rare look into the life of Scott Wallpain, a medium who claimed to have interviewed hundreds of famous ghosts while driving around the United States)

GCDV: You’ve said that you’ve encountered hundreds of famous ghosts. Are all the ghosts you meet famous?

SW: No. Just this morning I awoke with a small girl in a Sunday dress and pigtails tugging on my arm. “Wake up, wake up,” she said. “What is it?” I asked her. “I want you to tell people to stop abortion,” she said. “Because mommy killed me I never got to be a little girl.”

Alcoholics Anonymous (AA): The King of 13th Steppers

The King of 13th-Steppers by Michael X.

This scene is not fiction! Bill Wilson's womanizing is legendary:

AA’s Own Stats Show Slow Demise

just thought it good to reshare information (fact) that aa is in decline!
and wo the rehab ripoff racket - aa would practically disappear.
the demise of aa is due mostly to the common sense of the average man/woman.
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AA’s Own Stats Show Slow Demise - from Stinkin' Thinkin'_files

This piece was written for Stinkin’ Thinkin’ by a regular reader — an ex-AA member with 29 years in the program. Thank you!!

Get out your slide rules, nerds! – ftg

HAPPY EASTER/ONE & ALL

IT'S STRANGE but life changes.time was when on Martha's Vineyard
mom working for Scotty Reston as write for papaer.I would go to awesome
church Christmas eve just listen to music and see Stained glass inside.
Immense feelings o love from Lord and home to sleep
Being reminded /hey it's EASTER.Stage is set for memories o past
times when Easter was church day/different churches/mom kept changing
from one to another to another /uet still special day
I have no doubts about Jesu having been the MASTER o histime

My true recovery

I only went to one rehab and it was a 30 day rehab. The clinical director could not stand AA because he felt it promoted lazy thinking. He felt AA took the responsibility away from the person who abuses alcohol in two ways, one by passing the recovery over to god and two it was pre-determined that you would be an alkie, because you have the gene and it is a disease.

The Monkey Puzzle Tree

A bit of Trivia in response to a photo posted by Terry on His Letters Page
http://forestry.about.com/od/silviculture/p/monkey_tree.htm

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: April 16, 2014 - Tennessee Substance Abuse Treatment Facility Agrees to Resolve False Claims Act Allegations for $9.25 Million

The Department of Justice announced today that CRC Health Corp. (CRC) has agreed to pay $9.25 million to the federal government and the State of Tennessee to settle allegations that CRC knowingly submitted false claims by providing substandard treatment to adult and adolescent Medicaid patients suffering from alcohol and drug addiction at its facility in Burns, Tenn. CRC, based in Cupertino, Calif., is a nationwide provider of substance abuse and mental health treatment services.

Lindsay Lohan reveals that the list of her sexual partners was revealed as a part of the 5th Step of AA the Betty Ford Clinic.

Well we all know that what is said in an AA meeting is supposed to stay at the meeting. Here is an example of the "sexual inventory" of AA going very bad. If you remember Lindsay Lohan was court ordered into rehab.

Source: http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/chi-lindsay-lohan-sex-list-201...

Ad hominem…..etc…..of AA trolls

We all know what it means and for the most part I agree that we should dismantle the message, not the messenger…..
There is one notable exception in my opinion but first let me state why I think that exception is acceptable.

if god helps fine, therapy fine, watching clouds fine, willpower fine

what is not fine
is when they tell me
instead of letting me decide
what works for me
and defame and undermine me
for what helps me
or say their way - whatever - it might be
is THE way and that i MUST agree with their logic / ideology et al
but you a;already know that

warm fuzzy

this was a hug..when i was in" treatment"
looking back it was love bombing
did this happen in the rest of the world?

What happened,what im like now..

This is the only place where i can post this,and be understood..i hope
3 treatments and then 6 years of hardcore AA,another 4 years before i walked away and became a drinker again.I was twenty when it started,30 when i began to drink again.I thought i was fine,but the seeds had been sown
then the trouble started
Around the time i drank again i married,my son was born profoundly disabled and so began a change in direction in my life,hospitals,therapists,..24/7 crisis..and some of the funniest,moving times in my life.

Active opiate users save lives others?

http://www.thefix.com/content/rise-peer-based-naloxone-distribution-prog...
This has got to be the most audacious act of service for addicts I have ever heard about.

Active heroine

http://www.thefix.com/content/rise-peer-based-naloxone-distribution-prog...
This has got to be the most audacious act of service for addicts I have ever heard about.

Alcoholics Anonymous' Online Store

https://b2c.aaws.org/default.aspx

Alcoholics Anonymous' Online Store

Although I only go to the aa.org occasionally to track down a quote or something, I thought I new what they were up to at least mainstream. I didn't know they had an online store/website.

Book Club - AA: Cult or Cure

Monday, April 21, 2014

Source: http://www.meetup.com/SacFAN/events/146923202/

6:30 PM to 8:30 PM

Coffee Garden
2904 Franklin Blvd, Sacramento, CA (map)

We'll be discussing Alcoholics Anonymous: Cult or Cure? by Charles Bufe (nonfiction - culture).

Alcoholics Anonymous (AA): Mind Control 101

A description of AA as a cult.

This article tells in the first person how Alcoholics Anonymous has all the qualities of cult.
~ Dantalion Jones

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Why I Quit AA

http://open.salon.com/blog/theglasscharacter/2009/05/14/why_i_quit_aa

A sober alcoholic’s journey back to individuality

12 stepping for the non-twelve stepper


I’m a huge fan of the 12-step program. I don’t care if you’re trying to overcome an addiction to food, drugs, porn or puppies.

I’ve read the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous and I know all 12-steps in theory if not actually in practice.

You see, I’m not recovering from anything but plain old life. I’m a “cradle Christian”. In religious vernacular that means I’ve been going to church for my whole life—pretty much cradle to now and most likely, cradle to grave.

Man Arrested Before Going to AA Meeting for Voyeurism

AA Member Arrested For Voyeurism in Target Dressing Room Using His Cell Phone

PERKINS TOWNSHIP, Ohio — A female victim physically restrained a man who had been using his cell phone to videotape her as she changed in a Target dressing room, Fox 8 News reports.

According to a Perkins Township Police report, Zachary Ray Van Zandt, 21, of Sandusky, has been charged with voyeurism and disorderly conduct.

The real intent of AA’s “Suggested 12-Steps”

One of the first defenses that you will here when it comes to AA’s dogmatic 12 Step Religion is that it is not written in stone and that it is open for interpretation, that you can “take what you want and leave the rest”, that its steps are mere “suggestions” and that you need not follow them to the letter. Then they will tell you that AA does not claim to be the only solution or that it even advances the idea that only it has the answers. Those are all lies and in the final paragraph I’ll prove it. In the meantime, let me share with you what those 12 “suggestions” really imply….

Freedom of speech?

Imagine then a fleet or a ship in which there is a captain who is taller and stronger than any of the crew, but he is a little deaf and has a similar infirmity in sight, and his knowledge of navigation is not much better. The sailors are quarrelling with one another about the steering -- everyone is of opinion that he has a right to steer, though he has never learned the art of navigation and cannot tell who taught him or when he learned, and will further assert that it cannot be taught, and they are ready to cut in pieces anyone who says the contrary.

Al Gore/Sociology-Addictions

Between the most basic and primative prt of our brain ,responsible for bodily functiond and instinct
and the last structure within the brain to evolve,the part responsible for abstract thought and
known as the NEOCORTEX, is teh huge portion of our brain that governs emotion,called the LIMBIC SYSTEM.
In a very real sense ,the idea that human beings can function as disembodied intellects translates
into the absurd notion that the functions of the NEOCORTEX are the only workings of our brains
that matter. ...

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