Police Taser unruly patron outside of Sonoma County Alano Club, 1050 Petaluma Blvd. N. Petaluma, CA - AA Service Area 06 District 12

Man throwing punches at Petaluma alcoholics anonymous club stunned by Taser, arrested

April 29, 2015, 9:03AM

Petaluma police said a man who punched a worker in the face at an alcoholics anonymous club was then hit with a police Taser barb when he took a fighting stance and taunted an officer to fire the shock weapon.

New Age Yoga Cults and Sex Abuse.

Not so much about AA per say, but if you read the article, the Child who was abused in one of these cults was a a certified drug and alcohol counselor.

Brain Structure And Belief

It seems that an ability to believe in a personal God may be determined by the structure of one's brain. Since I have been on the OPF, I have noticed that many anti-AA's are inclined to excessive 'left-brain' thinking. In a few cases, I was wondering if they might even be somewhere on the autistic spectrum. Then I came across this article on the link between autism and atheism:

A lesson for the lost sheeple.

Ok, so I'm reading this really cool book and I have to leave some quotes over the next few days because the guy is dead on, funny and thinks much like I do-lol It's "50 Popular beliefs that people think are true" by Guy Harrison. From pages 33-34;

Update - It's Been, Like, Forever!

I just wanted to give anyone interested an update on my current situation. My husband has been totally 100% out of AA for months now and does not regret it one single bit. He has totally admitted that he bought their bullshit that he would start drinking and doing drugs again if he didn't attend meetings regularly. And he's mad about it, too.

What happens if you spend too much time in the "roomz"

"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: if we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back". CARL SAGAN....

AA Buildings in Chicago Used in Abusive Rehab

Chicago media has recently released this local story:

Puerto Rico exports its drug addicts to Chicago
April 10, 2015, by Adriana Cardona-Maguigad

Island police and mayors direct heroin addicts to Chicago and other cities with promises of housing and treatment.

RIP Florence Rankin 12/17/1895 - 4/19/1943

72 years ago today, Florence R. passed away....

Florence Rankin Kalhoun was born on December 17, 1895. Her troubled life would be plagued by bouts of heavy drinking, which ultimately led her to the basements of Alcoholics Anonymous. Florence's story hit the big time when "A Feminine Victory" made the first edition of the Big Book, where she wrote,

Is the tide turning in the US Senate towards medical TV advice? Claire McCaskill Slams Dr. Oz for Hawking 'Miracle' Products - peer Doctors want Dr. Oz fired from Columbia University Staff

Published on Jun 18, 2015
During a Senate panel on deceptive advertising for the weight loss products Dr. Oz has pioneered in the field of hawking products that are not actually proven to help people lose weight.

Does this sound like AA double speak? Does this sound like AA hawking cures by other TV personalities?

Ordering heroin is as easy as ordering pizza

This is an interesting New York Times article:

Alas, the one point that they missed as they rant about "the drug scourge" is that organized crime controls the drug trade, not the police or politicians or DEA or doctors or pharmacists. The local dope dealers have the power to determine who gets what, and how much.

NEVER expect confidentiality in AA Anything you say in confidence can and will be used against you. It may also become national news with your face, your fetishes, and your secrets scrawled across the planet.

@Janus....So where exactly have you gone to meetings? Where can we find the magic pixie dust?

Let's see if I've got this straight now Janus....
You've been to meetings in Australia and New Zealand and they've simply "got it all wrong". Their meetings are weird and not
done right. OK, two nations with millions of inhabitants simply "don't get it"???!!!!!?????
It's not THAT FUCKING COMPLICATED Janus. I'm pretty sure they've got it down to a T

Whay is said and seen at an AA meeting stays at the meeting, unless of course you are the brother of Nevada Senator Harry Reid in AA Service Area 42 New Years Eve 2015

Was Harry Reid really pummeled by a relative?

Capitol Police refuse to confirm or deny 'accident' claim
Published: 6 days ago
By Garth Kant

WASHINGTON – Skeptics have begun to openly doubt the explanation Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., has given about the severe injuries to his face, and the questions have become especially pointed as possible new information has come to light.

Just for you Janus! The drunkalogue from Chapter 8 of 12 Steps to Dead

Here you go Janus, I'm going to let you see EXACTLY what a drunkalogue sounds like. This is from chapter 8 of !2 Steps to
Dead. Enjoy.....

Chapter 8
Saturday, August 19th, 2001 (Holy Trinity Church, Port Washington, NY)

"12 Steps to Dead" by Rolf Ankermann now available on Amazon

It’s HERE……..12 Steps to Dead is now available as a paperback and e-book on Amazon, B&N Nook and on Kobo.

Utah Family Commits Suicide Because of Coming Apocalypse

Another crazy story of religious belief - - in Utah no less:

The mysterious deaths of five Utah family members in their Springville home baffled authorities at first.

Benjamin and Kristi Strack were found dead on their bed on September 27. On the floor near them in the locked master bedroom lay the bodies of three of their children, from 11 to 14 years old.


STEP1- for laughs-Aa goddd decided U should be alkie/druggie/rapist/killer etc
all predestined. no free will.
step2-no free will/decided FOR LAUGHS no free will
but made u INSANE- if you grovel.beg plead AA goddd will restore u to SANITY
STEP3- demands any will be surendered to HIM=AA
step4 -now prove that I am a SINNER show me PROOF
but list your sins and take the piss/BLAME for being abused/raped.attacked
whateer evil has happened in your life accept cause u is SINNER
step5= repeent and CONFESS U R A SINNER

The Myth That A Higher Power Can Be Literally "Anything"

"Anything" in the statement 'your Higher Power can be anything' is often deliberately misinterpreted in a literal way by anti-AA people to mean that all sorts of ludicrous objects can be chosen to be a person's Higher Power.

If you join Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) or any 12 Step group you will be expected to recruit more members. They will attempt to make sure you end up in "Jails","institutions" or "death". It says so in Chapter 5 of "The Big Book".

In Chapter 5 of the "Big Book" of Alcoholics Anonymous that Bill Wilson compiled from various members of early AA and the Oxford Group it explained the main idea in AA (and other 12 Step Groups using the 12 Steps, Traditions, etc...) If you become a member of a 12 Step Group such as AA you are expected to search out "Alcoholics" (or any 12 Step Group prospect and get them to join the group) in order for you to get better, otherwise you will relapse.


Right in front o my face.Colorado- changed laws. Anyone asking for PAIN MEDS-musy see Psych then PAIN MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST then maybe can have PAIN MEDS All this designed to SUCKER FOOLS into multi billion$$$ rehab industry/12 step industry daly 1,000's DEAD-cigarettes,booze,coffee,tea-overeating but lets SCREW with disabled ,elderly{30%+ live w/chronic PAIN} AMA wants to feed demon/monster=rehab>> 12 step rehab industry and we all know steppers shoved this LAW onto us w 12 step shiite protects noone-costs=$500+ to see 3 drs to be pain free

They are at it again

while there has been a bit of disagreement amongst the Anti Stepper Cult fraternity of late, the steppers are once again trying to publicise the AA or Bill Wilsons version of the Oxford Group cult. This time AA has actually been mentioned by name when the bad habit of alcohol abuse is being once again dealt with by an ITV Soap. This time its Emmerdale's Laurel (as opposed to Coronation Streets Peter Barlow) who has developed a 'drinking be cured guessed it.....your friendly neighbourhood ..AA

What is that line?

What is that line from the 'big book' that arrogantly talks about helping all people with AA 'principles', not just drunks.

Anne Fletcher article

This is sad: Anne Fletcher has gone off the deep end and is repeating A.A. slogans:


Yes, as the site you mentioned in your comment is mine, approving (or not) comments is entirely up to me.
Re: your remark about 'jumping on Orange's coattails,' actually I had written the book before I joined this forum. I wonder if you are making similar snide remarks to other members of this forum who have also written books and have their own websites. Either way, I greatly respect Mr. Orange, and am not stealing any of his glory by mentioning his site on mine. If he had objected, he surely would have said so.


Fun part growing up in Christism country is I got to eat CHRISTISM science/history.
daily food.all day here's the myth-we all's created from 2 two TWO people
there was only TWO adam and eve /course we also got hit with
original sin= they done went an got it on
>Hold the presses- seems that's not the truth.somewhere along the lines human's done went and
eveeolved beyond this Holy grail of His-story !!
So we're still searching for origins and suprise


so it would cause more serious pain to them.
2 arranged for his 17 years old daughter to have SEX WITH OLDER GUY IN AA
demanded she leave her same age school boyfriend
3.grandson committed suicide
5>>>> free to add to list of why co-was equal in shittting in others lives as BW
stupid guy Dr.shoulda had BW pay him part of the cash cow for his own use


SURE looks like this is now the ANUS/HELL MIND FORUM
all all comments are either from or to both these depsearately insane
believers in their own superiority over all on OPF>
when does that ability to IGNORE KICK IN???
noaa- is now just pitiable/pathetic his real jesu big book goddd
tells all o us how we're hypocrites =we disagree with aauk's godddd noaa
pretending to be antiAA does not help others- it simply generates hatred.

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