Meeting Makers Make It?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????

Ok, AA's slogans and mantras are so vague, self-serving and full of shit that they simply need to be torn to shreds. I already eviscerated "It works if your work it", so now it's time for another one.

MEETING MAKERS MAKE IT!

Make what? duh, lots of MEETINGS silly!

Ummmm, OK, and the implications of that would be?..................

Well from the AA cult standpoint this of course implies that if you don't regularly attend meetings then you won't make IT. Not again with that definitive "it"!

What is Sponsorship in Alcoholics Anonymous? What makes a person in AA a Sponsor? What is the difference between a Sponsor and a friend in AA?

Joanne and Patrick Fry have been served with a wrongful death lawsuit of Karla Brada along with Alcoholics Anonymous World Services, Inc. and the Santa Clarita Intergroup of AA. The lawsuit claims that the couple acted as sponsors to Karla Brada and the man convicted of her murder Eric Allen Earle, The Frys have gone to the newspapers claiming that they were not sponsors, just friends in AA. How do you determine if someone is a Sponsor or not?

"Breaking News" Jerry/Jim Battle Admits AA's god & bible god one & the same.

Jim Battle aka Jerry the known internet troll & serial social pest, banned, ignored & ridiculed on many forums including this one freely admits in his posts that his god of the bible, the same bible rewritten by the gay king James is an alternative to the god of AA, all other aspects of the faith healing program remain the same though. The success rate of both gods remains the same, that is less than the rate of natural remission.

If AA disempowers you? How do You empower yourself?

Why do people walk into AA? Some are sent, some are forced, many willingly go because they are at a low point in their life and may be depressed. They go, encounter the notion that they are powerless over “alcohol”, not powerless, just over alcohol or whatever substance they may be using. Too often, those believing that they are in the know wrongly assume that in AA you are told you are powerless. They then go on to provide a diatribe about that and that is just wrong. The readers should know that no one is powerless over some hydrocarbon.
To change you must embrace change.

Readers, anyone, former AA, present AA, the BB and Officiall AA literature teaches people what stops their drinking.

A ridiculous question would be, where in the steps does AA teach anyone how to stop drinking. The answers, to the superficial purveyor believes that the answer would jump right out at you, causing some to believe that they must be missing something because they cannot immediately see it.
  • Understanding that AA was a program without a book, as the official AA literature states, before the BB we were a secret society, and then became a program with a book....it is often missed where this is taught.
  • Neuroplasticity

    I am motivated and intend to oppose the entire 12 step industry and engage in a dialogue that causes those in the 12 step industry to pause and reflect on what it is they believe that they are being taught Words have meaning. If you consider that …..Harm Reduction is a middle of the way approach…noting that Change is part and parcel of the program…as it is stated…. “Alcohol Harm Reduction does not seek to force individuals to change in ways which they do not choose for themselves.”

    The Heresy of the Twelve Steps - Idolatry (Part 12)

    In the essay titled "The Heresy of the Twelve Steps", Orange points out that AA teaches that five things won't happen for you if your personal version of "God" or "Higher Power" doesn't deliver miracles on demand.

    To continue to help him show just how much AA's teachings differ from the teachings of the Bible I'm going to address THE FOURTH THING that supposedly won't happen which is..

    Hello, I am your Disease

    I Hate meetings...I Hate higher powers...I Hate anyone who has a program. To all who come in contact with me, I wish you death and I wish you suffering.

    Allow me to introduce myself, I am the disease of addiction. I Am cunning, baffling, and powerful. That's Me. I have killed millions and I am pleased.

    NEWS UPDATE: 11-16-2014 "AA still failing 95%

    NEWS UPDATE: 11-16-2014 "AA still failing 95%
    AA STILLS SAY"S IT"S WORKING !

    THANK YOU, WE are GRATEFUL for YOUR COMPLIANCE!
    signed -
    THE AA TROLLS

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    Factual Stepper Cult Joke

    What's the difference between an Atheist and Bill Wilson?.............an atheist who undergoes the belladonna treatment for a drink problem claims er.....whatever they claim, actually I don't know any atheists that have undergone the belladonna treatment, perhaps somebody can enlighten me as to what such a person actually claims? Bill Wilson undergoes the belladonna treatment for a drink problem and claims to have had a 'Spiritual Experience'.........and starts a cult

    Bite MY ASS/HELP/NOT

    These years on OPF have done exactly JACK fckng shit to help me with my problems. hatred this and fck this and wussy wussy that gee this sucks and wow that sucks.but as far as helping me with my life FCK U.

    Those clever steppers know how to cover their.......

    So I'm reading this book by a guy name Rolf Dobelli (Gotta be a good book right? LOL) called "The Art of Thinking Clearly" and in it he totally NAILS something that AA does all too efficiently.

    I'll quote the chapter (pages 35-36) and leave my commentary until the end. I think you'll see EXACTLY what he's talking about. happening in the "rooms".

    Stepper Cult Joke

    What's the difference between an Atheist and Bill Wilson?........An Atheist takes an Acid Tab and claims to have had a trip. Bill Wilson takes an Acid Tab and claims to have had a 'Spiritual Experience'.........and starts a cult

    Stepper Cult Joke

    What do you call a Stepper who claims they don't lie?................A liar

    The Heresy of the Twelve Steps - Idolatry (Part 11)

    In the essay titled "The Heresy of the Twelve Steps", Orange points out that AA teaches that five things won't happen for you if your personal version of "God" or "Higher Power" doesn't deliver miracles on demand.

    To continue to help him show just how much AA's teachings differ from the teachings of the Bible, I'm going to address THE THIRD THING that supposedly won't happen which is...

    "God won't take care of your will and your life for you in Step Three."

    orange papers implosion..

    i guess i came back on here to find out why Orange papers crashed,and then after that too see what had happened to the forum.But its the same?battle is still here?but he calls himself jerry now?.Same people pay him out..its groundhog day,except its worse..So many good members have left,soon it will just be a few of you fighting the walking dead.And then it will be over.Why be part of it?just ignore him..can you not do this?no i dont think you can..

    AA? / Necrophelia talking to the dead? / False Idols / Satanism / Illuminati

    Ex FBI Director reveals Rockefeller created 25 step plan for New World Order Mind Control

    Rockefeller gives AA [Rehabs] blessing of Finance World / Interested Business men.
    is aa one of the many pieces /powerlessness/ total acceptance / no anger / pacivity
    Necrophilia talking to the dead / False Idols / Satanism allowed as higher power
    research and ponder for yourself

    Stepper Cult Joke

    What's the difference between AA and NA? The AA true believer does not have to take an Acid Tab to believe God is a Doorknob

    Hindu deities, Catholic saints, Jesus and Higher Powers

    There is a lot of confusion about what constitutes a Higher Power. There is also much pointless discussion about what the 'real' God is. Most religions (including Hinduism with its multiple deities) accept that ultimately there is only one God but that different people around the world have different interpretations of that God.

    They're Back.................Whiny Oranges**

    A OrangeFlix original. Brought to you by The Orangie Hate Crew

    Directed by: Concern Troll, C#nt Whisperer, A Tizzy & A Hacker

    "Its like watching a series of SNL skits"

    ** Awarded the Emma Award

    I AM NOW PRACTICING FREE SPEECH

    ps Hate makes you stupid

    If you are Irish, can you be prevented from getting a job because the Irish are considered to have Alcoholism in their blood? In South Korea, yes you can.

    Katie Mulrennan rejected from South Korea teaching job due to 'alcoholism nature of the Irish' By Antonia Molloy Thursday 06 November 2014

    An Irish school teacher was turned away from a position in South Korea due to the "alcoholism nature of [her] kind".

    Katie Mulrennan, from County Kerry, had applied for a job in the capital Seoul after seeing the role advertised on Craigslist.

    Prooof God has Sense of Humour

    WARNING DO NOT READ UNLESS YOU HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOUR-------------------------------------Adam and God walking in garden of Eden.Adam I will give you two gifts.A brain that will allow you to create great things and do wonders.I also am giving you a PENIS that will allow you to enjoy this life and love Eve so very much.unfortuneately there is just one problem.You only have enough blood for one of these to work at a time.------------------------------------------------------

    I was very concerned when this site went down

    I think we have to start thinking long term on how to perserve this site , It is one of the most informative on AA history. Some will say bias I say so what. I was very concerned for Terry when the site went down, I was concerned about his health and well being.

    / I will never drink alcohol again, I will never change my mind.

    My first try at living sober started in 1962.. I followed the so called big book. I worked the 12 steps. I was absent from alcohol for one year and I had a bottle of beer and I got drunk. I did not stop drinking until Feb 22, 1970. This time I did not use the Big Book, I did not work the 12 steps, I did not turn my will or my life over to the care of Jesus. I made a decision that I would never drink alcohol again, I would never change my mind, I went to the park and I burned the Big Book and the Holly Bible, page by page. On February 22 of next year I will have remained sober for 45 years.

    The Heresy of the Twelve Steps - Idolatry (Part 10)

    In the essay titled "The Heresy of the Twelve Steps", Orange points out that AA teaches if your personal version of "God" or "Higher Power" doesn't deliver miracles on demand, then certain things won't happen for you.

    To continue to help him show just how much AA's teachings differ from the teachings of the Bible I'm going to address THE SECOND THING that supposedly won't happen which is..

    "You won't get restored to sanity in Step Two.

    Another piece of Oxford Group propoganda from Ontario AA Area 86 District 12&13 "The four principles, a great lesson in 2014"

    The four principles, a great lesson in 2014

    A Small Drop of Ink
    Grimsby Lincoln News By Dorothy Turcotte

    The other day I opened an old file folder full of miscellaneous items and took out a copy of a newspaper article from the Sunday Chronicle dated July 28, 1935. I have no idea where this article came from, but I know it had been in that file for decades. I finally unfolded it and read it for the first time.

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